Radiator: CSF or Mishimoto?

SS_Firehawk

Yes there will be space... theoretically. With my build, my oil coolers have to go in front of the intercoolers. If I had an aftermarket front bumper with a larger opening, then things could be shuffled a bit to make it more effective. FYI, my car has the twin IC setup the MHI has and the crash bumper is in place. I opted for the larger and more powerful SPAL fans to help compensate the airflow deficiency. I'll see how it works when I get the car back home.

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Stino

I stared a thread a few weeks back regarding my Mishimoto Radiator install. Thread link and post below.

Overall I feel the NEW Mishimoto Radiator for our Z is top quality and performs outstanding. The deciding factor for me was that it has 2 rows and being 40mm thick allows for more coolant.

NEW 370Z Mishimoto Radiator Install
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I installed the NEW Mishimoto Radiator over the weekend. The install was straight-forward and an easy install for you Do-It-Yourselfers. I was very impressed with the quality and that everything fit perfectly without having to modify anything on my Z.

The stock radiator core is only 13mm thick with 1 row. The Mishimoto radiator core is a massive 40mm thick with 2 rows. I don’t have any gauges to compare the temperature differences, however, I use my infrared temperature gun to gather a few reading. I saw an average of 20-30 degree decrease in temperature when comparing different areas of the radiator and engine before and after install. Also my oil temps are much lower as well. This was an unforeseen benefit and much needed living in Florida.

I posted a YouTube video and some pics below. You may find them useful if you are looking to replace your stock radiator.

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Forgot to mention. Contact Luke at THMotorsports for good pricing and fast shipping. Nissan 370Z Forum - View Profile: THMotorsports

Stino

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370zrider

I think Mishimotos' won't fit with an intercooler + oilcooler

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LafitteZ

The turbo intercoolers bolt to the location where the front crash bar usually is. There's tons of room between the intercooler and radiator. The sc guys don't have much room.

Mishimoto

Hey guys,

We have tested our aluminum radiator with our direct fit oil cooler and fitment is perfect with no modification necessary. Our aluminum radiator is significantly thicker than the stock unit which may bring about questions regarding intercooler fitment. I spoke with our engineers and the Mishimoto radiator is expanded both frontward and backward in the car. This radiator adds 20mm to the front face of the radiator towards the front bumper. This means from the front of our radiator/AC condenser assembly to the end of the lower radiator support is around 50mm. This leaves around 4 inches of space between the A/C condenser and the back side of the bumper support beam.

If you are utilizing a front mount intercooler that is mounted in front of the crash beam then fitment should not be a problem at all. We have not tested fitment with an intercooler behind the crash beam so we are unable to confirm fitment. This really depends on the thickness of the cooler. If you would like to send me the specs of your intercooler I would be happy to compare this to our drawings and see if we can come to a conclusion. Being able to fit all Mishimoto cooling components and an intercooler really depends on the intercooler size and its mounting points. I would be happy to help with any specific questions, feel free to shoot me a PM.

Thanks!

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Mr.Squeeze

It will fit I know someone with one on a Turbo Z

I am switching out my CSF Radiator for the Mishimoto one in the next few weeks and will post results.

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GaleForce

A rad might be on my winter project list... I'm looking to beef things up for some track days next summer. Looking forward to your results.

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critical

I have a question. Can you tell me the specs on the power steering cooler? Looks like a direct bolt on replacement but a lot longer.

CSF Inc.

Remember guys, not all radiators are created equal.

Here is a comparison photograph taken this past week comparing CSF's industry leading "B-Tube" technology versus the "M" company's tubes.

It is apparent from the comaprison photo that our tubes:
1) Have a much better flow rate.
2) Our tubes have more surface area contact with the coolant allowing for better heat transfer efficiency (~15% more contact)
3) Because of the B-tube structure, we can use thinner aluminum but still have a stronger tube which has two advantages:
A) Ensures that non of our tubes are squished when the tubes are inserted into the headerplate during the manufacturing process. Sqished tubes significantly reduce the effectiveness of a radiator.
B) Allows for even better heat transfer efficiency because of the thinner aluminum.

"B-tube" technology is the world's best radiator tube only available in the performance aftermarket by CSF, a true radiator manufacture with over 65 years of experience and OE clients across the world.

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CSF Racing & High Performance - Manager

O&G

To Mishimoto from CSF? Never heard that one before. I just replaced my Mishimoto thermostat(left) with 4k miles on it for my stock unit(right) with 6k on it after hearing too many horror stories about their craftsmanship, leaky radiators and failed thermostats. As you can see the seal is already busted on the Mishimoto thermostat. I had a friend who had a Mishimoto thermostat fail on his Subaru which resulted in a ruined bottom end. From what I understand they make a decent oil cooler!


I do have the CSF radiator though, so I guess I can be labeled as biased.

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Mr.Squeeze

Picture's look good but what matter is real world results. I have had the CSF radiator for some time and i can tell you right now it does not like to get pushed in heat . I have also seen both right next to each other ,and the Mishimoto is larger has 2 row for extra not one like the CSF. Now this does not make it better I will post the results like I have stated once I make the switch.

Make me a radiator that can handle at least 17-PSI of boost for one pull up to 150 mph hit 220+ coolant temp and not take forever to come down. I have gotten the CSF hot very easy and not even on my highest boost setting.

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hyunsoo1803

I would like to know as well, please keep us informed

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martin82

The ps cooler looks to me from a gtr

critical

thanks.



Question to CSF or Mishimoto. How does your 7AT cooling done through the radiator compare to the stock radiator and which is better?

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Mandingo

G37 also has the longer oem ps cooler.

G37 power steering cooler

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