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CSF Inc. 08-12-2013 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by critical (Post 2441740)
thanks.



Question to CSF or Mishimoto. How does your 7AT cooling done through the radiator compare to the stock radiator and which is better?
From what I understand, CSF is the only manufacture to produce a unit for the automatic transmission (CSF #7011). We use the same water-to-oil 7-plate transmission oil cooler as the original unit. This is the largest size we could fit into the unit.

martin82 08-12-2013 12:32 PM
nice, I didn't know the g37 had a bigger PS! good to know

1slow370 08-12-2013 09:09 PM
Doesn't the GTM radiator support the 7at also?

SS_Firehawk 08-12-2013 09:35 PM
Yes. But I would put that at a different price and performance bracket. You'll be spending $1400-$1700 for theirs because it requires a new fan shroud. It's overkill for most Z's.

Mishimoto 08-16-2013 11:13 AM
Our target market for this radiator was the manual transmission Z, with optimum performance in mind for these specific cars. Our radiator can be adapted to work with the automatic transmission, with the addition of our external transmission cooler.

advan37 08-18-2013 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mishimoto (Post 2448854)
Our target market for this radiator was the manual transmission Z, with optimum performance in mind for these specific cars. Our radiator can be adapted to work with the automatic transmission, with the addition of our external transmission cooler.
I will wait for automatic version .

DEpointfive0 09-04-2013 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 2305315)
A little biased understandably. The GTM unit is also built to order so has a 6-8 week lead time. You need the radiator plus their custom shroud which bumps the price up significantly. The integrated oil heat exchanger is pretty sweet though and can be used either for cooling the A/T or on a manual to boost the engine oil cooling efficiency. The condenser is removable if you decide to go all track.

The PWR would be my first choice for a track only application with A/C delete, solid racing reputation. They are stocked by Nissan Motorsports but ordering through Nissan is trying.

Also do you homework regarding warranty replacements (for street vehicles).
... Heat exchanger is a little useless IMO, regular oil cooler would be much more efficient...
... CSF offers a 7AT version with a trans cooler too...
... CSF's condenser is removable too...

DEpointfive0 09-04-2013 11:04 PM
Yes, I'm biased now to CSF:
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...r-service.html

clintfocus 09-04-2013 11:34 PM
proper shrouding for alot of the guys posting here would help huge. No one has even mentioned anything about that

Shadezz 09-05-2013 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2473626)
Made my choice easy...Thanks for the great review and story of customer service Depointfive!!:ugh2:

theDreamer 09-05-2013 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by clintfocus (Post 2473654)
proper shrouding for alot of the guys posting here would help huge. No one has even mentioned anything about that
Most are focused on a drop in solution, taking advantage of existing OEM parts.
Also, still waiting on results from another forum member if the GTM SPAL fan upgrade is plug-n-play with the CSF radiator. Instead of having to buy the fans, re-wire your fan controls, build new mounting solutions, etc.

Meulen 09-05-2013 07:42 AM
I don't understand. If you're NA and worried about water temp. Why not get a Thermostat?

theDreamer 09-05-2013 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Meulen (Post 2473847)
I don't understand. If you're NA and worried about water temp. Why not get a Thermostat?
Because the ones for our car suck, one throws a CEL code, another is some cheap china made POS, and so far no one has made a decent upgrade.
Also, a radiator is a better solution, as while on the track it will help keep you much cooler versus the OEM radiator.

Chuck33079 09-05-2013 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Meulen (Post 2473847)
I don't understand. If you're NA and worried about water temp. Why not get a Thermostat?
Because the only lower temp aftermarket thermostat is Mishimoto, and they make cheap Chinese garbage that fail all of the time. If your thermostat fails closed, you're boned.

Meulen 09-05-2013 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2473849)
Because the ones for our car suck, one throws a CEL code, another is some cheap china made POS, and so far no one has made a decent upgrade.
Also, a radiator is a better solution, as while on the track it will help keep you much cooler versus the OEM radiator.
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2473850)
Because the only lower temp aftermarket thermostat is Mishimoto, and they make cheap Chinese garbage that fail all of the time. If your thermostat fails closed, you're boned.
I wasn't aware they were that bad. I guess I found it hard to believe it was difficult to mess up such a simple part. I know some racing teams run them, however, I'm sure they rebuild those motors all the time anyway and longevity of a $65 part is probably the least of their problems.

thanks for the insight.


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