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XwChriswX · 04-11-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob

It's just a purist feel.

However, for me it gives my left leg something to do. I've had surgery on it and if it just sits there it goes completely numb, then feels like it's burning from the inside (stupid nerves).

A clutch pedal fixes that, giving it something to do and keep in motion somewhat.

I'd be hard pressed to have this being the determining factor... I've rode with manual Z's and now that my AT's been tuned, its a minute difference over a manual shift. The only difference is the lag between dropping power, and picking power back up. A human being simply can not shift as fast as the AT. So if anything, it's still quicker. I still feel just as connected to the car. I think this mindset works for 70's-80's even 90's era MT vs ATs, but with modern ATs, I don't think there is as much of a gap between them anymore.

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Originally Posted by Haboob

...And everyone is going AT. Us MT guys just want to be different.

Maybe it makes the car harder to steal (w/o a flatbed) too, as most kids/thieves don't know how to drive stick.

<--- not sure if it's true, but kind of funny.

Trust me, if someone wants to steal your car, your car won't be there in the morning. And if in the attempt they figure out they Can't steal it, they will 1. f*** up all the internals, and 2 trash the hell out of it just because.

You also forget that most of the people who steal cars also drive late 80's early 90's hondas, which were primarily manual...

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i could care less about the "purist" feel. it's all about performance and function over "form" lol

To be honest Frank, I agree with you on most cases, but in this point... Gotta disagree. If you want performance and ease of function/fixing, Manual is better for power.

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Well, I have a 7AT and I think it's amazing...
BUT here are the downfalls of AT,

It weighs more
It costs more to replace
It can't take as much HP
It overheats
No lightweight flywheel
EDIT: Oh, and they lose less HP through the drivetrain

1. Given
2. Given
3. Gonna have to see what the AT's can handle after they've been effectively modded the same as manuals are with upgraded clutch/flywheels/etc. Though stock for stock, given.
4. Data to support this?
5. No clutch pedal either. So is the weight difference (flywheel only) really going to have a dramatic impact on a 3300lb car?

FPenvy · 04-11-2013, 04:03 PM

7AT here......this is all you need to see lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XQgKq0H55Q

NickTurnon · 04-11-2013, 04:06 PM

I can't downshift into 1st when in manual mode because I don't want my ears to bleed and I wouldn't want to break anyones windshield behind me with the sonic boom!

FPenvy · 04-11-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NickTurnon

I can't downshift into 1st when in manual mode because I don't want my ears to bleed and I wouldn't want to break anyones windshield behind me with the sonic boom!

i do that when i drop into 2nd. people usually leave me big gaps behind me at stoplights when i do that haha

DEpointfive0 · 04-11-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I'd be hard pressed to have this being the determining factor... I've rode with manual Z's and now that my AT's been tuned, its a minute difference over a manual shift. The only difference is the lag between dropping power, and picking power back up. A human being simply can not shift as fast as the AT. So if anything, it's still quicker. I still feel just as connected to the car. I think this mindset works for 70's-80's even 90's era MT vs ATs, but with modern ATs, I don't think there is as much of a gap between them anymore.

Trust me, if someone wants to steal your car, your car won't be there in the morning. And if in the attempt they figure out they Can't steal it, they will 1. f*** up all the internals, and 2 trash the hell out of it just because.

To be honest Frank, I agree with you on most cases, but in this point... Gotta disagree. If you want performance and ease of function/fixing, Manual is better for power.

1. Given
2. Given
3. Gonna have to see what the AT's can handle after they've been effectively modded the same as manuals are with upgraded clutch/flywheels/etc. Though stock for stock, given.
4. Data to support this?
5. No clutch pedal either. So is the weight difference (flywheel only) really going to have a dramatic impact on a 3300lb car?

I agree with the first 3 things.

As for #3, you don't NEED an upgraded clutch/flywheel to deal with the extra power and if our flex plates are breaking with being NA, we're SCREWED going FI, oh and you'll for SURE need an upgraded valve body
#4, a few people on the track have had the fluid overheat on a track, and they make AT coolers, so obviously that's an issue
#5/1, the flywheel isn't the only issue, or the only reason as to why AT weighs more, there is much more complexity to the AT

Again, I'm ALL for the 7AT on THIS car over the M6, I'm happy I got the auto, and I think it's more refined, but I DO understand why you'd want a M6

kenchan · 04-11-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

same ones they put in the GTR.....actually they are the exact ones lol

my push-start button is the real GTR button.

FPenvy · 04-11-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

my push-start button is the real GTR button.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-11-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

do you AT guys like sushi?

Love it!!! Smells like fish, but tastes like chicken.

Did someone buy 7AMT's???

kenchan · 04-11-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

you can get one too. vendors here sell them. it's easy to replace.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-11-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I'd be hard pressed to have this being the determining factor... I've rode with manual Z's and now that my AT's been tuned, its a minute difference over a manual shift. The only difference is the lag between dropping power, and picking power back up. A human being simply can not shift as fast as the AT. So if anything, it's still quicker. I still feel just as connected to the car. I think this mindset works for 70's-80's even 90's era MT vs ATs, but with modern ATs, I don't think there is as much of a gap between them anymore.

Trust me, if someone wants to steal your car, your car won't be there in the morning. And if in the attempt they figure out they Can't steal it, they will 1. f*** up all the internals, and 2 trash the hell out of it just because.

You also forget that most of the people who steal cars also drive late 80's early 90's hondas, which were primarily manual...

To be honest Frank, I agree with you on most cases, but in this point... Gotta disagree. If you want performance and ease of function/fixing, Manual is better for power.

1. Given
2. Given
3. Gonna have to see what the AT's can handle after they've been effectively modded the same as manuals are with upgraded clutch/flywheels/etc. Though stock for stock, given.
4. Data to support this?
5. No clutch pedal either. So is the weight difference (flywheel only) really going to have a dramatic impact on a 3300lb car?

Chris, you're making too much sense!!! Stop it. Haven't you heard, Ignorance is bliss... lol

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

7AT here......this is all you need to see lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XQgKq0H55Q

The AT is fun, it's about liking to try to do things more than one way. There's an art to driving that's beyond droppin the clutch

FPenvy · 04-11-2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

you can get one too. vendors here sell them. it's easy to replace.

yes i know. i've used the search function once or twice here

kenchan · 04-11-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

yes i know. i've used the search function once or twice here

then why the

you think your whitish stock one that glow orange

is BETTER than the red candy?

FPenvy · 04-11-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

then why the

you think your whitish stock one that glow orange

is BETTER than the red candy?

I just don't wanna touch that until its real.

Jordo! · 04-11-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Naum16

Whenever i am in sport mode should i let the car downshift by itself or am i better doing it myself never could decide. Another big thing about it is it bad to push it over in sport mode whiling driving could it dang the trans.

You can downshift it if you want. You just have to learn at what speed and RPM the ECU will automatically drop it down (varies for each gear) and downshift before that -- otherwise you'll end up kicking it down a gear lower than intended.

Note that the ECU learns your shift patterns, so after driving in M mode, it may feel a bit herky-jerky in regular auto afterwards. Not something to worry about, just an FYI.

You can shift over to M while driving without hurting anything, and can even use the paddles to up or downshift while in auto mode -- it will temporarily go to M if you do that, then will revert to regular auto after a few seconds.

kenchan · 04-11-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

I just don't wanna touch that until its real.

but you already got faux GTR paddles...

you dont touch that?

you see, AT guys make no sense to me.

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