Is this normal oil consumption?

cheshirecat · 02-28-2013, 11:42 PM

The replacement block for me, on both my 350 and 370, was great.

Just expect it to eat some oil as it's breaking in. From what I've seen, it should be largely finished by the 7500mi mark or so.

ZOperaMan · 03-01-2013, 12:30 AM

New short block is fine; no oil consumption at all. Dealer did a decent job.

bbowers825 · 03-03-2013, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Your warranty is with Nissan, not the dealer. If you don't trust your dealer to work on your car, go find one you can. I "fired" the dealer I bought my '09 from. My current dealer is much better.

I really hope you reported this to the NNA?? It's dealers like this who WANT to be fired so they don't have to shell out the money for parts/labor, all to be covered by your warranty. Incompetence.

ZOperaMan · 03-03-2013, 09:30 AM

It is my guess that dealers make money on warranty work, if they're competent. The paperwork for my short block replacement included a good size bill to be reimbursed by Nissan.

cheshirecat · 03-03-2013, 02:29 PM

While they do make money on warranty work, there's a particular line they can't cross when it comes to monthly reimbursements from corporate.

If they do too much work, it starts to look like they're just looking for things to replace and bill out to the manufacturer. This is the reason that some dealerships will be hesitant to repair things when you bring them in while others may jump right on it.

Just another reason not to stick with one dealer if they're not working out.

avantgti7 · 03-11-2013, 07:42 PM

930.5 from my last oil change at the dealer. Follow-up oil consumption test scheduled at the dealer this Friday.

Judging from the dipstick, it looks like that is at least 10mm from the H point of the dipstick.

What do you guys think?

Japanjay · 03-11-2013, 08:43 PM

Yeah. The oil rings are toast on your pistons. It is pushing oil from in the crank area into the cylinder. And you have a 6spd. My service managers was saying it is more prevelant with the manuals.

DEpointfive0 · 03-11-2013, 08:55 PM

Yay!!! New engine for you!!!

930 miles and you're about 3/4 of a quart short... Motor is toast.
Thanks for playing, lol

cheshirecat · 03-12-2013, 10:38 AM

That kind of consumption warrants a new block.

avantgti7 · 03-14-2013, 09:36 PM

1145 miles from the oil change....
follow-up consumption test is tomorrow
I hope I fail!

fuct · 03-15-2013, 11:16 AM

in the pictures above the oil isnt at the proper temp to be checking it anyways. you should let it get up to 180 at least. then let it sit 10 min then check....

OldGuy · 03-15-2013, 12:20 PM

I guess oil use is effected by driving style and time between changes. I've had my '09 Z for 3 years and 11,000 mi. and had the oil changed three times now, (every 3,000 mi.). No oil consumption between changes was ever significant enough to be indicated indicated on the dipstick---none. I'm not complaining---just pointing out different situations. I drive pretty gently and I guess that makes a difference.

avantgti7 · 03-15-2013, 02:45 PM

To Fuct:

Each time I checked the oil in the pictures below, I had just come home from work which is a 20-25 mile highway commute averaging 70mph+. I waited 30 minutes and then checked the oil which explains why the temperature was under 180. I suppose if I waited 10 minutes, the temperature would be closer to 180 but there would probably be even less oil on the dipstick.

To oldguy:

I noticed oil consumption with this car immediately after doing the first oil change. I agree that the oil consumption became worse between changing intervals if my driving style was more aggressive. However, it is a sports car and I bought it with the intention of driving it hard at least occasionally. It just doesn't make sense to pay this much for a car and then to be carrying around quarts of oil in my trunk.

Update as of this morning on 03/15/2013:

I failed the oil consumption test. The dealer ordered a short block motor which will come next Tuesday. The repair will take two days and they are going to give me a rental car. They gave me back the car and told me to continue driving it until then. They didn't top off the oil because when they drain the oil from the old engine, they want to get an exact measurement.

I think this is probably one of the few times in my life that I am happy to fail a test.

fuct · 03-15-2013, 03:19 PM

hmmmm. 10 min versus 30 i think wouldnt amount for much. i was unaware of the 20 min drive.

soooooo yea, your burning oil. :/

OldGuy · 03-15-2013, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avantgti7

To Fuct:

Each time I checked the oil in the pictures below, I had just come home from work which is a 20-25 mile highway commute averaging 70mph+. I waited 30 minutes and then checked the oil which explains why the temperature was under 180. I suppose if I waited 10 minutes, the temperature would be closer to 180 but there would probably be even less oil on the dipstick.

To oldguy:

I noticed oil consumption with this car immediately after doing the first oil change. I agree that the oil consumption became worse between changing intervals if my driving style was more aggressive. However, it is a sports car and I bought it with the intention of driving it hard at least occasionally. It just doesn't make sense to pay this much for a car and then to be carrying around quarts of oil in my trunk.

Update as of this morning on 03/15/2013:

I failed the oil consumption test. The dealer ordered a short block motor which will come next Tuesday. The repair will take two days and they are going to give me a rental car. They gave me back the car and told me to continue driving it until then. They didn't top off the oil because when they drain the oil from the old engine, they want to get an exact measurement.

I think this is probably one of the few times in my life that I am happy to fail a test.

You're absolutely right. My point is that my car is closer to what you're entitled to expect as the owner of an expensive car, whose manufacturer should anticipate is being driven for sport. You are perfectly entitled to a complete remedy.

03-01-2013, 12:30 AM	#17 (permalink)
ZOperaMan Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 82 Drives: 09 TT370z Yellow 6MT Rep Power: 15	New short block is fine; no oil consumption at all. Dealer did a decent job. __________________ Chicane Yellow 2009 370Z Base \| AAM Twin Turbo \| *516whp* Built 3.7 Wiseco-K1 \| AAM Fuel Return, 3-in Dual Exh \| Injector Dyn 1000cc \| CJM Billet Hat-Aeromotive 340 \| Setrab \| Quaife LSD \| Clutchmaster 725 Dual Disc \| CSF Radiator

03-03-2013, 09:30 AM	#19 (permalink)
ZOperaMan Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 82 Drives: 09 TT370z Yellow 6MT Rep Power: 15	It is my guess that dealers make money on warranty work, if they're competent. The paperwork for my short block replacement included a good size bill to be reimbursed by Nissan. __________________ Chicane Yellow 2009 370Z Base \| AAM Twin Turbo \| *516whp* Built 3.7 Wiseco-K1 \| AAM Fuel Return, 3-in Dual Exh \| Injector Dyn 1000cc \| CJM Billet Hat-Aeromotive 340 \| Setrab \| Quaife LSD \| Clutchmaster 725 Dual Disc \| CSF Radiator

03-11-2013, 07:42 PM	#21 (permalink)
avantgti7 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 39 Drives: 09-370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 14	930.5 from my last oil change at the dealer. Follow-up oil consumption test scheduled at the dealer this Friday. Judging from the dipstick, it looks like that is at least 10mm from the H point of the dipstick. What do you guys think? __________________ My Rides: '09 Nissan 370Z Touring/Sport Package - AAM CBE '02 Suzuki SV650S - Delkevic Slip-On

03-11-2013, 08:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	Yay!!! New engine for you!!! 930 miles and you're about 3/4 of a quart short... Motor is toast. Thanks for playing, lol __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

03-12-2013, 10:38 AM	#24 (permalink)
cheshirecat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,428 Drives: N54 135i Rep Power: 292	That kind of consumption warrants a new block. Initial Z likes this.

02-28-2013, 11:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
cheshirecat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,428 Drives: N54 135i Rep Power: 292	The replacement block for me, on both my 350 and 370, was great. Just expect it to eat some oil as it's breaking in. From what I've seen, it should be largely finished by the 7500mi mark or so.

03-03-2013, 02:29 PM	#20 (permalink)
cheshirecat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,428 Drives: N54 135i Rep Power: 292	While they do make money on warranty work, there's a particular line they can't cross when it comes to monthly reimbursements from corporate. If they do too much work, it starts to look like they're just looking for things to replace and bill out to the manufacturer. This is the reason that some dealerships will be hesitant to repair things when you bring them in while others may jump right on it. Just another reason not to stick with one dealer if they're not working out.

03-11-2013, 08:43 PM	#22 (permalink)
Japanjay Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Puyallup Posts: 856 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z MB M6 Rep Power: 14	Yeah. The oil rings are toast on your pistons. It is pushing oil from in the crank area into the cylinder. And you have a 6spd. My service managers was saying it is more prevelant with the manuals.

03-14-2013, 09:36 PM	#25 (permalink)
avantgti7 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 39 Drives: 09-370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 14	1145 miles from the oil change.... follow-up consumption test is tomorrow I hope I fail! __________________ My Rides: '09 Nissan 370Z Touring/Sport Package - AAM CBE '02 Suzuki SV650S - Delkevic Slip-On

03-15-2013, 11:16 AM	#26 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	in the pictures above the oil isnt at the proper temp to be checking it anyways. you should let it get up to 180 at least. then let it sit 10 min then check....

03-15-2013, 12:20 PM	#27 (permalink)
OldGuy Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Greensburg PA Posts: 899 Drives: '09370Z Red Base A7 Rep Power: 17	I guess oil use is effected by driving style and time between changes. I've had my '09 Z for 3 years and 11,000 mi. and had the oil changed three times now, (every 3,000 mi.). No oil consumption between changes was ever significant enough to be indicated indicated on the dipstick---none. I'm not complaining---just pointing out different situations. I drive pretty gently and I guess that makes a difference.

03-15-2013, 02:45 PM	#28 (permalink)
avantgti7 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 39 Drives: 09-370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 14	To Fuct: Each time I checked the oil in the pictures below, I had just come home from work which is a 20-25 mile highway commute averaging 70mph+. I waited 30 minutes and then checked the oil which explains why the temperature was under 180. I suppose if I waited 10 minutes, the temperature would be closer to 180 but there would probably be even less oil on the dipstick. To oldguy: I noticed oil consumption with this car immediately after doing the first oil change. I agree that the oil consumption became worse between changing intervals if my driving style was more aggressive. However, it is a sports car and I bought it with the intention of driving it hard at least occasionally. It just doesn't make sense to pay this much for a car and then to be carrying around quarts of oil in my trunk. Update as of this morning on 03/15/2013: I failed the oil consumption test. The dealer ordered a short block motor which will come next Tuesday. The repair will take two days and they are going to give me a rental car. They gave me back the car and told me to continue driving it until then. They didn't top off the oil because when they drain the oil from the old engine, they want to get an exact measurement. I think this is probably one of the few times in my life that I am happy to fail a test. Initial Z likes this. __________________ My Rides: '09 Nissan 370Z Touring/Sport Package - AAM CBE '02 Suzuki SV650S - Delkevic Slip-On

03-15-2013, 03:19 PM	#29 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	hmmmm. 10 min versus 30 i think wouldnt amount for much. i was unaware of the 20 min drive. soooooo yea, your burning oil. :/

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