HH-O Hydromoving Technology

Chuck33079 · 01-25-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

And you have to love the secrecy thing. "Psst! Hey, buddy! It's a secret ... but check out this web page. Tell all your friends."

That's the funniest part. Other than the fact that in my head he sounds like Mario.

If he really had any association with any arm of Nissan he'd have signed an NDA about every part of this, and lawyers would have descended on this thread instantly and forced the admins to take it down. Not to mention that he'd have won a ******* Nobel Prize if he managed to pull this off.

SouthArk370Z · 01-25-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

... If he really had any association with any arm of Nissan he'd have signed an NDA about every part of this, and lawyers would have descended on this thread instantly and forced the admins to take it down.

My guess is that they would have shut his site down long before it got to us.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Not to mention that he'd have won a ******* Nobel Prize if he managed to pull this off.

It's painfully obvious that you just don't understand the situation. Big Oil/Conventional Scientists/& al are squashing his research and keeping it from the general public.

lorenz1955 · 01-25-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Results from Google:
No results found for "consistency of water Domain "
No results found for "consistency of water Domain".

Please provide a few links to get me started.

Dear friend,
this is an abstract :
Oxhydroelectric Effect: Electricity from Water by Twin Electrodes
For more informations do not esitate.
lorenz

Chuck33079 · 01-25-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

It's painfully obvious that you just don't understand the situation. Big Oil/Conventional Scientists/& al are squashing his research and keeping it from the general public.

Are you kidding? They'd love it. Nissan would put it into cars and then sell carbon credits for being "green" back to Big Oil. Then Big Oil would slow refinery production to drive the cost of gas back up to the pre-magic water engine era. Their profits would be the same, but then they'd use the carbon credits for the tax break, and pocket the difference. Some of the profits would go to our politicians to make sure that a replacement for gasoline-powered transportation never sees the light of day. Thus squashing brave technological pioneers like Lorenzo. In a way, by getting this info out just before the black helicopters showed up over his villa, he's a hero. He could be the first domino to fall in the path of the development of the 1000mpg flying Jetsons cars we were told we'd have by now.

Chuck33079 · 01-25-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lorenz1955

Dear friend,
this is an abstract :
Oxhydroelectric Effect: Electricity from Water by Twin Electrodes
For more informations do not esitate.
lorenz

Can you direct us to somewhere that doesn't want money for the full document? I'll be damned if I'm going pay to verify your information. The burden of proof is on you as the vendor.

lorenz1955 · 01-25-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You'll never find any real info. This guy's full of ****. I'll give ten-to-one odds that, in addition to making magic engine parts, he can also get you in touch with a real Nigerian prince that needs a little help moving some funds around.

Dear Bull,
it seems to me that you're exaggerating ... much ... If we are to talk about technique and you need to learn ... let's move on ...If you are not interested in learning ... well ...try at least to behave by educated person.
If you need 100 dollars for petrol in your Z 370 ... well let me a whistle.
Thank you
lorenz

SouthArk370Z · 01-25-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lorenz1955

Dear friend,
this is an abstract :
Oxhydroelectric Effect: Electricity from Water by Twin Electrodes
For more informations do not esitate.
lorenz

Maybe I'm just dense, but what has "electricity extraction" got to do with producing H2+02? I couldn't find the complete text (for free, anyway), but it appears that OE has more to do with measuring water quality than electrolyzing water. But I don't have much to go on.

As far as I can tell, that one paper is the only one that mentions OE. But if you have more info, then please link to it.

Chuck33079 · 01-25-2013, 04:51 PM

Please, prove me wrong. I will happily make a public apology if you get cars running around showing real-world results at the end-user level. I want to be wrong. If what you're doing actually works, it is a HUGE breakthrough. At this point though, you have no more credibility than any of the other people that have brought something like this to market and they have been thoroughly debunked by now.

lorenz1955 · 01-25-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Can you direct us to somewhere that doesn't want money for the full document? I'll be damned if I'm going pay to verify your information. The burden of proof is on you as the vendor.

Dear,
I'm not anybody's supplier.
Are not obligated to provide you a test run of the system.
If not enough published or do not know read charts well is your problem not mine ... learn more.
Learn Italian as I am learning English.
Thanks
lorenz

SouthArk370Z · 01-25-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Please, prove me wrong. I will happily make a public apology if you get cars running around showing real-world results at the end-user level. I want to be wrong. If what you're doing actually works, it is a HUGE breakthrough. At this point though, you have no more credibility than any of the other people that have brought something like this to market and they have been thoroughly debunked by now.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

lorenz1955: I will also eat crow if you will just show us independent (and reliable) replication/verification of your results. At this point, I might even settle for a reasonable hypothesis of how you can get more energy out of the system than you put in. So far, you have provided neither.
Put up or shut up.

wstar · 01-25-2013, 05:05 PM

For that matter the whole scientific community, I'm sure, would be pleased to see you publish your groundbreaking new laws of physics in a peer-reviewed journal

lorenz1955 · 01-25-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Please, prove me wrong. I will happily make a public apology if you get cars running around showing real-world results at the end-user level. I want to be wrong. If what you're doing actually works, it is a HUGE breakthrough. At this point though, you have no more credibility than any of the other people that have brought something like this to market and they have been thoroughly debunked by now.

Dear Chuck,
American sellers of HHO Kits, were unmasked by years.
Please learn more :
Fuel saving device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and more :
Fuel saving - a professional engineer's view
Ciao
lorenz

Chuck33079 · 01-25-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lorenz1955

Dear Chuck,
American sellers of HHO Kits, were unmasked by years.
Please learn more :
Fuel saving device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and more :
Fuel saving - a professional engineer's view
Ciao
lorenz

Ok, now I'm confused. The first link is taking me to the wikipedia page that says you're shoveling ****, and the second is a dead webpage? How were those being used to support your position that this **** works?

SouthArk370Z · 01-25-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lorenz1955

Dear,
I'm not anybody's supplier.
Are not obligated to provide you a test run of the system.
If not enough published or do not know read charts well is your problem not mine ... learn more.
Learn Italian as I am learning English.
Thanks
lorenz

ROFLMAO
Yep. We're being trolled.

lorenz1955 · 01-25-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Took the words right out of my mouth.

lorenz1955: I will also eat crow if you will just show us independent (and reliable) replication/verification of your results. At this point, I might even settle for a reasonable hypothesis of how you can get more energy out of the system than you put in. So far, you have provided neither.
Put up or shut up.

I'm sorry southark,
but I think you didn't read well ... the site. under Results there is a pdf file , open and read it.
I haven't written myself, I wrote a Pc, that controls the emissions and consumption of most cars from all over the world ... read well.
Ciao
Lorenz

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