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Old 01-25-2013, 07:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Maybe I was off the mark thinking that this forum would support someone spending a lot of their own money and time researching and building an alternative system to improve the engine of our cars....
I didn't expect everyone to run out and buy a system, let alone be fanboi's, but I did expect that there would be support for someone thinking outside the box and having the stones and conviction to try and build it. It's people like Lorenz that help move our technology forward, either by discovering something incredible or proving it is non-viable. Either way, it's good for our future.
I did my best to bend over backwards to give the guy some credit above, but that's as far as I can go. The fact is that this does have the very distinct smell of pseudo-science snake-oil, and none of the list of Nissan and/or EU involvements really does much to change that. I fully support people thinking outside the box and moving technology forward. However, historically it's not people like Lorenz that help move our technology forward. Mostly what they do is defraud investors and fail to provide the world with any useful new science or engineering.

If you really want to go down the road of saying I'm being unfair, then perhaps I need to convince you a little more that I'm not:

Water4Gas HHO and Brown's gas are frauds and scams
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I'm sure you can google more results for yourself. This sort of thing generally falls under the same category as the crackpots that pop up every few years pumping for investors in the latest "cold fusion" or perpetual motion machine scam. They defraud investors that might have used the money to invest in something actually useful.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Dear friends, I wanted to ask you to rest assured, nobody wants to come to smoke in the USA sell ... have enough snake oil to the USA, exactly those written by WSTAR, I so far I have received so much from Nissan Europe, Universities and I'm glad for this ...
The forum is helpful to share with you a project ..., having opinions, observations, I don't absolutely need investors, perhaps you misunderstood my thought ...
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Dear WSTAR,
if you go to click on HHO KITS for my site, you can read in English what I think of European and USA vendors of HHO Kit.
I was the first in Italy from 2005 that has always maintained that the HHO kit is a Scam.
The project that I built for Nissan is an implant .... and not a kit ... I know perfectly well the laws of physics, so the reference to Wikipedia I know him ...I'm not a mechanic, but an engineer graduated in 1975 in electrical engineering ... when colleges were for students who wanted to study with passion.
In relation to my Patent, the Patent Centre Munchen international
replied that:
3.2 This feature allows to carry out water electrolysis consuming less energy.
3.3 The problem to be solved by the present invention may be regarded as providing a system for carryng out an electrolysis having improved energetic efficiency.
3.4 The solution to this problem proposed in claim 8 Theirof the present application is considered as involving an inventive step for the following reasons :there is neither a disclosure nor a hint in the available prior art to add a control unit as describedin claim 11 to the system of document D2.
An Electrolytic cell having one cathode and more than one anode is known ( see document D3), but it is not suitable for producing oxy-hydrogen gas,since oxygen is not produced in this cell. The skilled person would therefore not be encouraged to combine the teaching of D3 with the cell disclosed by D2.
4.0 Claims 2-10 are dependent on one or more independent claims whose subject-matter is considered as being new and inventive, as discussed above, and as such said dependent claims also meet the requirements of novelty and inventive step.
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