Does anybody else think the 370 manual tranny sucks!

FairladyZ · 01-17-2013, 11:02 PM

Regardless of how bad some may think it is, I'll still take it over the AT.

I just feel driving a MT makes the experience more involving

Blizzard · 01-18-2013, 06:08 AM

Shifts fine for me.

Chuck33079 · 01-18-2013, 09:37 AM

Mine shifts just fine. It makes noise (a whole lot less than my old STi's transmission did though), and it's a little tricky to drive with the clutch/flywheel combo, but it feels pretty stout. I guess I got a good one. First isn't really that short unless you're comparing it to some of the much faster cars out there that can hit 60 in first. You don't need to bang it off the rev limiter, but running first out to 5-6k all the time is not an issue.

SS_Firehawk · 01-18-2013, 12:25 PM

Sounds like a can of bee's with the wrong exhaust maybe. Feels like a can of bees... The shift knob will vibrate like mad

Joe@ZSpeed · 01-30-2013, 11:04 AM

Changing the stock Dual mass flywheel and clutch with a single mass flywheel and sprung clutch makes the car MUCH easier to drive and take off smoothly from stop, Really, It makes a HUGE difference. It gets rid of all the lunging/bouncing you experience from a get go making us look like rookie drivers.

djrelic · 02-02-2013, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed

Changing the stock Dual mass flywheel and clutch with a single mass flywheel and sprung clutch makes the car MUCH easier to drive and take off smoothly from stop, Really, It makes a HUGE difference. It gets rid of all the lunging/bouncing you experience from a get go making us look like rookie drivers.

Got my juicey tax refund. You should see an order coming from me soon for that steel single mass flywheel, HD-CSC, and clutch kit.

I just gotta make sure some bills are covered and then im buyin them plums.

How is the R/D going on the new Clutch Mastercyclinder for our cars?

Take care

Joe@ZSpeed · 02-04-2013, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djrelic

Got my juicey tax refund. You should see an order coming from me soon for that steel single mass flywheel, HD-CSC, and clutch kit.

I just gotta make sure some bills are covered and then im buyin them plums.

How is the R/D going on the new Clutch Mastercyclinder for our cars?

Take care

Awesome!

We are working on it, It will take time though, We test our stuff pretty well before releasing it

NYBladeZ · 02-01-2013, 01:27 PM

I totally agree with OP, the Z34 transmission leaves a lot to be desired add in the fact that the CSC can be an issue especially with modifications and it makes it all that much harder to love.

The AT isn't without issue, if you're looking for more power the AT won't hold up and will require pricey upgrade mods.

In my experience, I'll be honest I hated it. I hated the clunky feeling, I hated how vague it felt and compared to the rest of the Z's surprisingly quality build I feel like they just cut their effort on the gear box. I changed out the MT tranny fluid and it was much better but still not ideal.

All in all, the MT transmission made the decision to sell my Z much easier. I routinely drive my buddies' STi, s2k and 1M. Every time I used to get back in my Z it was such a downer

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NorCAL370Zed · 02-01-2013, 02:28 PM

I have a new 2012 370Z MT and have to say my transmission is the same and agree with the original poster. Its not bad at all on freeways or country roads in 3rd gear + but 1st and 2nd, city driving takes a lot of skill to drive it smoothly. It takes practice to drive, especially while cold and I have to admit its pretty annoying at times when I just want to cruise around without concentrating on shifting. I have found that shifting at higher RPM like 3-4 is best and you really have to have a solid foot on the clutch and let it out very deliberately. All n all its a very raw and unrefined car, but maybe thats a good thing and you just have to get used to it to master it.

dnwarwas · 02-05-2013, 08:40 PM

I have a 2012 Nismo, have 8500 miles on it, and I doubt I drive my car as "hard" as others, but I pretty much gas it every time I take off (changing gears every 3000-3500 rpm); however, tonight I heard the strangest noise (for the first time). The light changed red, put it in neutral, stopped, and heard an almost grinding/clunking noise. Pushed in the clutch it went away. Back in neutral same sound again. The light turned green so I took off, pulled into a parking lot, but now it "seems" as though the noise quit.

Any other experiences out there?

fuct · 02-06-2013, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnwarwas

I have a 2012 Nismo, have 8500 miles on it, and I doubt I drive my car as "hard" as others, but I pretty much gas it every time I take off (changing gears every 3000-3500 rpm); however, tonight I heard the strangest noise (for the first time). The light changed red, put it in neutral, stopped, and heard an almost grinding/clunking noise. Pushed in the clutch it went away. Back in neutral same sound again. The light turned green so I took off, pulled into a parking lot, but now it "seems" as though the noise quit.

Any other experiences out there?

when you heard the noise was the car at in incline or decline? mine chatters when im up hill and in neutral.

dnwarwas · 02-06-2013, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct

when you heard the noise was the car at in incline or decline? mine chatters when im up hill and in neutral.

I was level. :/

SS_Firehawk · 02-06-2013, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnwarwas

I have a 2012 Nismo, have 8500 miles on it, and I doubt I drive my car as "hard" as others, but I pretty much gas it every time I take off (changing gears every 3000-3500 rpm); however, tonight I heard the strangest noise (for the first time). The light changed red, put it in neutral, stopped, and heard an almost grinding/clunking noise. Pushed in the clutch it went away. Back in neutral same sound again. The light turned green so I took off, pulled into a parking lot, but now it "seems" as though the noise quit.

Any other experiences out there?

Flywheel chatter. Every Z has it. The lighter the flywheel, the louder it is.

fuct · 02-06-2013, 01:11 PM

it might be the normal chatter... see if it changes in a month or two. mine seems to talk to me. loud some months, whisper quiet others.

irondoc · 02-10-2013, 08:27 AM

I agree with the assessment that 1st gear is shorter than it could/should be, but many of those on here who race or are just looking for faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile times have gone to a higher geared rear end, which will make the quicker off the line, and shorten shift times even more.
Another solution for those looking to lengthen their time between shifts, for a more tractable daily driver is to swap out the 6MT 3.74 final drive for the 7AT 3.357. I know one poster on here did that and loved the result.
I have not found it necessary to do so as yet, but I may at some point.

01-18-2013, 09:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Mine shifts just fine. It makes noise (a whole lot less than my old STi's transmission did though), and it's a little tricky to drive with the clutch/flywheel combo, but it feels pretty stout. I guess I got a good one. First isn't really that short unless you're comparing it to some of the much faster cars out there that can hit 60 in first. You don't need to bang it off the rev limiter, but running first out to 5-6k all the time is not an issue. irondoc likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

01-18-2013, 12:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	Sounds like a can of bee's with the wrong exhaust maybe. Feels like a can of bees... The shift knob will vibrate like mad __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

01-30-2013, 11:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Joe@ZSpeed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,304 Drives: Nissan Rep Power: 343000	Changing the stock Dual mass flywheel and clutch with a single mass flywheel and sprung clutch makes the car MUCH easier to drive and take off smoothly from stop, Really, It makes a HUGE difference. It gets rid of all the lunging/bouncing you experience from a get go making us look like rookie drivers. MJB likes this. __________________ http://photos.zspeedperformance.com/...ardsize=468x60 Phone *937-506-7224* E-Mail Sales@Zspeed.com www.ZSPEED.com

02-01-2013, 01:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 21	I totally agree with OP, the Z34 transmission leaves a lot to be desired add in the fact that the CSC can be an issue especially with modifications and it makes it all that much harder to love. The AT isn't without issue, if you're looking for more power the AT won't hold up and will require pricey upgrade mods. In my experience, I'll be honest I hated it. I hated the clunky feeling, I hated how vague it felt and compared to the rest of the Z's surprisingly quality build I feel like they just cut their effort on the gear box. I changed out the MT tranny fluid and it was much better but still not ideal. All in all, the MT transmission made the decision to sell my Z much easier. I routinely drive my buddies' STi, s2k and 1M. Every time I used to get back in my Z it was such a downer . __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

02-05-2013, 08:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
dnwarwas Base Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 57 Drives: 2012 370z Nismo Rep Power: 13	I have a 2012 Nismo, have 8500 miles on it, and I doubt I drive my car as "hard" as others, but I pretty much gas it every time I take off (changing gears every 3000-3500 rpm); however, tonight I heard the strangest noise (for the first time). The light changed red, put it in neutral, stopped, and heard an almost grinding/clunking noise. Pushed in the clutch it went away. Back in neutral same sound again. The light turned green so I took off, pulled into a parking lot, but now it "seems" as though the noise quit. Any other experiences out there? __________________ FACEBOOK\|2012 Nissan 370z Nismo \| Carbon 35% Tint\|Pioneer AVIC-X940BT - Hertz HSK 165 - JL Audio HD 900/5 Amp - JL Audio Custom Subs\|Escort's Passport 9500ci \|#638 FI TDX Cat Back Exhaust w/ 18" Res & CF Mufflers\|FI 300 Cell High Flow Cats\|Stillen G3 Intake

01-17-2013, 11:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
FairladyZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 850 Drives: 2012 370Z TRNG SPRT Rep Power: 18	Regardless of how bad some may think it is, I'll still take it over the AT. I just feel driving a MT makes the experience more involving

01-18-2013, 06:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
Blizzard Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 32 Drives: 2009 370Z Touring Rep Power: 13	Shifts fine for me.

02-01-2013, 02:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
NorCAL370Zed Base Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: San Jose CA Posts: 4 Drives: 2012 370z Sport Rep Power: 13	I have a new 2012 370Z MT and have to say my transmission is the same and agree with the original poster. Its not bad at all on freeways or country roads in 3rd gear + but 1st and 2nd, city driving takes a lot of skill to drive it smoothly. It takes practice to drive, especially while cold and I have to admit its pretty annoying at times when I just want to cruise around without concentrating on shifting. I have found that shifting at higher RPM like 3-4 is best and you really have to have a solid foot on the clutch and let it out very deliberately. All n all its a very raw and unrefined car, but maybe thats a good thing and you just have to get used to it to master it.

02-06-2013, 01:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	it might be the normal chatter... see if it changes in a month or two. mine seems to talk to me. loud some months, whisper quiet others. dnwarwas likes this.

02-10-2013, 08:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
irondoc Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 99 Drives: 13 370 6MT sport tou Rep Power: 13	I agree with the assessment that 1st gear is shorter than it could/should be, but many of those on here who race or are just looking for faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile times have gone to a higher geared rear end, which will make the quicker off the line, and shorten shift times even more. Another solution for those looking to lengthen their time between shifts, for a more tractable daily driver is to swap out the 6MT 3.74 final drive for the 7AT 3.357. I know one poster on here did that and loved the result. I have not found it necessary to do so as yet, but I may at some point.

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