Originally Posted by ErnieT Why wouldn't you guys just use the Nissan oil? Its synthetic, is it not? it's not a synthetic. it's conventional. and it's $13/ qt. if i'm
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07-21-2009, 04:23 PM | #46 (permalink) | |
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if i'm not mistaken, it's not recommended to use synthitic until the motor is broken in. and now it's even more complicated b/c of this ester thing. if someone can just recommend something that meets nissan's recommendation and does not cost $90 per oil change, i'm listening! i'm not looking for the "best thing your egine has ever seen", super-duper oil. |
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No, I wouldn't unless it was recommended highly or was proven w/ street vehicle use and the extra cost being "worth" it...same with AMSOIL and their ball bearing test. Last I checked, there aren't any ball bearings in a car engine.
The whole GroupV vs GroupIV...what makes GroupV actually "better"? Personally, I think as long as the oil and filter are changed at the manufacturer's recommended intervals, one could easily put in the cheapest oil that meets the specifications and the engine should be fine. |
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Im really just joshin ya now , I used Nissan filters and Syntec in my 350 with amazing results(UOA proven), so Im still not 100% sold on Redline et al just yet. I do have time and money to spare though so wth |
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I’m not certain if Nissan used ester oil for factory break in! PP was noticeably quieter in the VVEL intake valves. My normal driving oil temps with PP is 220. When driven like a whore, it jumps to 245. It has never reached 260. Maybe living and driving in Connecticut with daytime highest ambient temperatures averaging 85 (July) is the reason. In addition, PP is formulated with Adaptive Molecules, which help resist the breakdown caused by heat, shear and pressure in your engine. |
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I called my dealership to see if they had this oil. When I got the car, they told me I had "free" oil changes for life. Now if I "want" this oil, its another $45 additional. At
$11 a qt, this crap better make my car float, lol...
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In my opinion, the oil that Nissan recommends is marketing hype. I'm feeling more and more confident that using a higher quality synthetic will perform the same, if not better. The best part about that is, they are all cheaper (except Motul).
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Definitely update whenever you do the UOA with the PP. I think there is a thread just for this actually. I'll be ordering my Amsoil in the next week or so and then I'll have a UOA on it in a few months.
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A used oil analysis on a similar engine is the only thing I'll really trust, but that is for serious analysis. In all honesty just about any synthetic and 5K changes will work just fine.
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Coming from a rotary world, i can only say that Royal Purple products where the ones to be chosen as far as wear reduction, heating and HP (yes HP) improvments. I am a true fan of RP with my previous car (Maxda Rx-8). I did about 15 track events over the last 3 years and had different oils analysed. RP was always the winnner... My Z will be arriving next week and you can be sure that i will switch to RP as soon as i hit the 5-7K mark. Anyone using RP products in the Z world? |
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Rotory world is different - you can't, or shouldn't, use synthetic for example. |
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