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Originally Posted by ErnieT Why wouldn't you guys just use the Nissan oil? Its synthetic, is it not? it's not a synthetic. it's conventional. and it's $13/ qt. if i'm
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if i'm not mistaken, it's not recommended to use synthitic until the motor is broken in. and now it's even more complicated b/c of this ester thing. if someone can just recommend something that meets nissan's recommendation and does not cost $90 per oil change, i'm listening! i'm not looking for the "best thing your egine has ever seen", super-duper oil. |
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I called my dealership to see if they had this oil. When I got the car, they told me I had "free" oil changes for life. Now if I "want" this oil, its another $45 additional. At
$11 a qt, this crap better make my car float, lol...
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In my opinion, the oil that Nissan recommends is marketing hype. I'm feeling more and more confident that using a higher quality synthetic will perform the same, if not better. The best part about that is, they are all cheaper (except Motul).
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Definitely update whenever you do the UOA with the PP. I think there is a thread just for this actually. I'll be ordering my Amsoil in the next week or so and then I'll have a UOA on it in a few months.
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A used oil analysis on a similar engine is the only thing I'll really trust, but that is for serious analysis. In all honesty just about any synthetic and 5K changes will work just fine.
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Changed the oil in my car today at 1500 miles to 5w-30 Redline and a Purolator PureONE Filter.
Car runs a bit smoother in the high-end, overall quieter, and is running about 10 degrees lower in oil temperature. I will watch the oil temp for a long period of time obviously, so this may not be accurate, although it was running 220 with the standard oil and was at 210 after under same driving and environmental conditions. |
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redline 5w30. call it a day
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From what I read around here this is the major issue and has been documented:
----The super oil’s attraction to the cam followers helps cushion them hydraulically against the slapping action of the VVEL shoe, thus damping out the noise. Nissan’s TSB for the noise involves switching to the ester super oil and reflashing the engines ECU. Nissan has determined the revving the VQ37VHR without load helps contribute to the noise. What the reflash does is if you free rev between 1500-4500 rpm, the engines ECU will slowly return the engine to idle. If you free rev above 4500, the engine will return to a lower speed more aggressively. The noise is harmless and doesn’t affect engine life; just some people find it annoying. We haven’t been able to hear this noise ourselves in a 370Z’s that didn’t have super oil in them so it must be pretty minor, although these Z’s had intake and exhaust systems. Perhaps the best solution if you are bothered by this noise is to turn on your radio!----------- Use the oil you like and are comfortable with that meets the specs. Im swapping to Platinum Penzoil or the German 5/30 Castrol here in Germany. Thats what my German dealer throws in their cars! |
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redline is a group 5 along with motul 300v. it has the ester and bunch of other addictive names i can't pronounce. common results with it is lower oil temp on our cars and the idling sound is quieter.
would it matter much if you put in castrol/pennzoil/mobil1 or watever group 3. probably not, as long as you change the oil when you should. i go with redline for the stated reasons and for peace of mind so i can beat the **** out of the car
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I Used to have a gti, and vw recommended castrol. Any experience with this oil in the fully sinthetic version? |
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