It clearly says it recommends it.

Recommends and needs are the same,if your doctor recommends that you stop eating fried food don't you think there is reasoning behind it.
I know the difference between recommend and need but if the manufacture says it recommend and you don't listen well it the same as someone not listening to the doctor.

i wasnt trying to be a jerk Baer...... just stating clear facts

no, your cars engine is still covered under warranty as long as you use an oil listed from nissan. the ester coats the diamond polished components better than conventional oils. which in turn makes our motor run a lil quieter and a tad cooler.

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I disagree, if it was needed they would have specifically said required. If that's the case using something other than Ester Oil would void your warranty through Nissan.

run whatever oil you want! i used redline for the first 25k miles. ive been using mobil1 5w30 since then. zero issues, zero performance problems.

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Hi guys, I decided to read further into the fluid recommendations since I didn't see the bit about Ester for people like me who are not in North America.

Nissan is not very precise about their oil recommendation. They seem to have printed different specs for the North American market and the rest of the world (Except For North America MA-15). There is specific mention of "Genuine Nissan Ester Engine Oil" in footnote 2 under the Fluid Recommendations for North America, but there is no mention of Ester oil for the rest of the world. In fact, in the Fluids Recommendation for "Except For North America", instead of Genuine Nissan Ester Engine Oil, it just says "Genuine Nissan Engine Oil". Strangely, 5W-30 is recommended for the whole of North America regardless of whether you're in Death Valley, CA or up in glacier country. And for the rest of the world, they recommend 10W-30 but there is a footnote that brings you to MA-16 where there is some sort of a contradiction. "10W-30 is Preferable... 5W-30 is ALSO Preferable and will improve fuel economy". And to confuse things further, immediately under that, it says "If 10W-30 and 5W-30 are not availabe, select the viscosity from the chart, that is suitable for your outside temperature range". And there's a SAE Viscosity Chart where you may select one that meets your outside temp.

Moral of the story, just use what suits your ambient temperature and your driving conditions. I'm in Singapore and the dealership uses mineral oil for the first 3 free oil changes. When I asked to upgrade to a fully-synthetic oil, they recommened Shogun and said that its the same stuff they put in their GTRs.

Intersting... Now that you mentioned, I did notice a very slight tinge of blue in my oil when it was new. Is this Nissan Ester oil fully synthetic? Wish we had this Nissan Ester oil here. Our dealership doesn't import it.

I think it's urine

smurf urine to be exact.

That would explain the blue tinge.