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(MT question) Who honestly uses 1st gear besides on a hill?

I always use 1st gear and I ditched the "helper" spring. All stock set-up right now, but I'm sure that will change soon.

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Old 10-07-2012, 02:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I always use 1st gear and I ditched the "helper" spring. All stock set-up right now, but I'm sure that will change soon.
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You asked for an Opinion And just because I'm in AT doesn't mean anything.

I owned and worked on various Z's for the past 25years and all been Manuals so don't throw the AT nice comment if you aren't going to like peoples opinions.

No your opinion is valid and valued. Well atleast the first few sentences of it, because that is what I asked for.

The thread asked simply: Do you use 1st gear in your Manual Transmission 370Z.

What I did not ask for, were the snide remarks that followed your opinion. Which were to discourage me from posting a thread if there was any damaging effects by continuing this practice.
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I always use first from a dead stop. It was designed for it and saves 2nd from wear and tear.
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The faster I can get off the clutch per gear, the better. Clutches wear out and using 2nd gear from a stop is a good way to increase wear exponentially, and just like it was mentioned before, the synchros in 2nd weren't made for it. If your tranny does lose 2nd, and you take it in to Nissan, it's not going to get covered because it was damaged under a condition it was not built to withstand. I'm sure they will question why 1st gear looks brand new.

So to answer your question, I'm pretty sure 99.99% of us do, including the computer that controls the auto's tranny
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Even the syncros in the tranny will not allow you to get into the 1st gear gate unless you are at a complete stop.
I've never had an issue getting into 1st while moving. If you seriously have that issue you need to get your transmission looked at.
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... I'm pretty sure 99.99% of us do, including the computer that controls the auto's tranny
^^^ this

My bad to OP.

I didn't actually think you we're being serious about using 1st only on uphill starts. I assumed you were just trying to start a thread about how 1st sucks and were being creative about it lols.



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I use 1st gear and nothing else. 8000 rpms or bust!
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2nd gear starts in the snow sometimes. However, with winter tires, I get minimal/no spin starting off in 1st. If the car is moving at least 5 mph, then 2nd gear, else 1st gear. First gear is a bit of a challenge to engage when moving, but with proper rev match, goes right in.
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2nd gear starts in the snow sometimes. However, with winter tires, I get minimal/no spin starting off in 1st. If the car is moving at least 5 mph, then 2nd gear, else 1st gear. First gear is a bit of a challenge to engage when moving, but with proper rev match, goes right in.
I agree with this. 2nd gear can me a good trick under slick conditions. I learned this one in the mid-west when 4 to 5 inches is nothing. 1st gear on a hill will just produce spin if your not familiar with that kind of weather.
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OP - you just made my day. Keep doing what you have been doing and let us know how it is with your car every 90 days.
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Too much clutch feathering required to start in 2nd for the 370, imo. Sounds more like laziness to not use 1st to get the car moving.
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1st ALWAYS from a stop. If I am moving at 5-10 then 2nd. Although not having to shift into 2nd does reduce synchro wear in 2nd the extra wear on the clutch isn't worth it. 1st allows the clutch to be smoothly released with minimal slipping. Slipping clutch = extra heat and substantially more wear.

Generally I don't shift into first unless I am below 5mph and usually when I am stopped.

1st is there for a reason.
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I don't know what all this rough 1st gear nonsense is. Perhaps learning how to drive the car better would help
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I don't know what all this rough 1st gear nonsense is. Perhaps learning how to drive the car better would help
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i always use first, and i can slip it in gear while im moving around 5-10 mph no prob.
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