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I have a 2010 370z nismo and I want to install nitrous, what would be the safest shot and do I need one step colder spark plugs

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 2010 370z nismo and I want to install nitrous, what would be the safest shot and do I need one step colder spark plugs
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75/100

That's without a tune or plugs, anything higher and you would need it. If you are installing nitrous and you are going to be seriously using it on a daily or weekend bases. I recommend a tune to retard timing/plugs/warmer...etc the whole nine.

$1300 roughly for everything
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None.
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Agreed.
Save the N2O for the Vtec boys.
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75/100

That's without a tune or plugs, anything higher and you would need it. If you are installing nitrous and you are going to be seriously using it on a daily or weekend bases. I recommend a tune to retard timing/plugs/warmer...etc the whole nine.

$1300 roughly for everything
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None.
both are wrong

Anytime you use nitrous, regardless if its a 10 shot or a 150 shot, you should be tuned for it. For stock block, i wouldnt go anymore then a 100 shot, but thats just me.
bare minimum required:

Dual fogger system (i suggest wet system)
tune
1 step colder plugs

recommend:
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purge

Not sure if its avalible for the Z's but we have a guy that designs a tuning program for the Evo's that allows us to flip between tunes with our cruise control buttons. It also automatically switches tunes as a safety measure if something goes wrong, ie if your bottle runs empty and your afr goes lean, it will switch to a non-nitrous map.
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Did you just wanna say someone was wrong? Guess guys who have been using nitrous at the track for the last six years are doing it wrong? Thanks for the info will be spreading the word.

Also that program is called UpRev.
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Not sure if its avalible for the Z's but we have a guy that designs a tuning program for the Evo's that allows us to flip between tunes with our cruise control buttons. It also automatically switches tunes as a safety measure if something goes wrong, ie if your bottle runs empty and your afr goes lean, it will switch to a non-nitrous map.
uprev can do this

as well as set up launch control (yes on 6mt) for those of u who might not have known that
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I'm probably, one of the longest running tenured member here running nitrous without any issues. I was one of the first as there was probably only one other person who made a post about it back then. I did my research and went with it.


I hate posting up my experience because the majority here are "Anti-N20". My thoughts are if you have no "direct" experience with it. You should not comment about it. People read horror stories or tales about it Nitrous because most the time it was unproperly setup. But the fact is, anytime you go force induction you run that chance of something going wrong.

I've read many issues here about GTM this and that, blown motor, oil starvation. So should we stay away from TT or SC? No, just ensure that you minimize the risks by doing your homework, work with people who have been working/using N20 for years and tune with UpRev. Good luck on your decision.
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I'm probably, one of the longest running tenured member here running nitrous without any issues. I was one of the first as there was probably only one other person who made a post about it back then. I did my research and went with it.


I hate posting up my experience because the majority here are "Anti-N20". My thoughts are if you have no "direct" experience with it. You should not comment about it. People read horror stories or tales about it Nitrous because most the time it was unproperly setup. But the fact is, anytime you go force induction you run that chance of something going wrong.

I've read many issues here about GTM this and that, blown motor, oil starvation. So should we stay away from TT or SC? No, just ensure that you minimize the risks by doing your homework, work with people who have been working/using N20 for years and tune with UpRev. Good luck on your decision.
My rule of thumb is:

If you are asking about nitrous on a public forum, you don't have enough experience with it, hence you shouldn't use it. That's why when people ask me if they should use it, I tell them NO.

It's not like a CAI or exhaust where you can't really mess things up too much. When things go wrong with nitrous, it can get REALLY expensive.

People like yourself that know what they are doing, don't need "our" help and will be fine.
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I still don't get why folks are anti nos?

Force induction is force induction douches say otherwise!
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I ran a 55 shot on mine for a while. Didnt change plugs or tune. It ran just fine. BTW its much cheaper to by an HR 350z kit, i bought mine from dyno tune.
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People like yourself that know what they are doing, don't need "our" help and will be fine.
Thanks, but as I recommended to the OP. Do lots of research, get all the safety measurements and use experts advise.

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Force induction is force induction douches say otherwise!
Exactly.... It's another form, and best bang for the buck when done "properly".

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I ran a 55 shot on mine for a while. Didnt change plugs or tune. It ran just fine. BTW its much cheaper to by an HR 350z kit, i bought mine from dyno tune.
55 shot? Man that's tiny lol. :-)that's what big turbo guys use to spin their turbos... My first time with the 75 shot put a big smile on my face lol.. Now I run the 100 shot but I only use the bottle at the track.

If you want to see the first time I used nitrous on the Z search 671Messiah on YouTube ... Please excuse Simota1's comments. It was his first time ever experiencing nitrous lol..
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My rule of thumb is:

If you are asking about nitrous on a public forum, you don't have enough experience with it, hence you shouldn't use it. That's why when people ask me if they should use it, I tell them NO.

It's not like a CAI or exhaust where you can't really mess things up too much. When things go wrong with nitrous, it can get REALLY expensive.

People like yourself that know what they are doing, don't need "our" help and will be fine.
wtf is the point of a forum then? What's wrong with hopping on a forum trying to learn something new...
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NOS just has a bad reputation because it is cheaper then a more permanent boost more people who don't have the money up front use it (insert V-tech comment here). Being that it is low cost often people cheap out on it because they didn't have the money. And cheaping out on any upgrade leads to sever problems down the road.

The best thing anyone can do is buy or check out a book from those places know as libraries and read. It can be an old book too, the technology has been around along time.

http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Management-Advanced-Greg-Banish/dp/1932494421/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1349112293&sr=1-2&keywords=forced+induction"]Example[/URL]

These books have more knowledge then any one or 100 threads can ever give you. And will save you alot of time, pain, and money.

But if you just want a cheap not useful answer that doesn't take any effort please keep asking these questions. Here's mine, NOS is find you should do it, it is simple and effective.
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wtf is the point of a forum then? What's wrong with hopping on a forum trying to learn something new...
If you think a public forum is the appropriate place to learn how to properly install and use nitrous on your car reliably, then I can't help you.
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