"Bogging" in first gear

bushman66 · 06-12-2012, 04:03 PM

I have the stock airboxes. Only mod is the F! 18" Stainless CBE.

henry0844 · 06-14-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bushman66

Which cooler do you have?

in my sig, Stillen 19 row.

Footloose301 · 06-15-2012, 01:51 AM

Are you taking off at 500rpm? Thats the only time mine bogs....

IDZRVIT · 06-15-2012, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301

Are you taking off at 500rpm? Thats the only time mine bogs....

Yeah, really. Or maybe these guys that are bogging are taking off in 3rd? I find my car burns more gas when I rev it. Is that an issue?

bushman66 · 06-15-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

Yeah, really. Or maybe these guys that are bogging are taking off in 3rd? I find my car burns more gas when I rev it. Is that an issue?

If you don't have anything productive to add to the thread, don't post asinine comments. How about you read through the thread before posting and maybe you'll see this is a documented issue with the 370's...

IDZRVIT · 06-15-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bushman66

If you don't have anything productive to add to the thread, don't post asinine comments. How about you read through the thread before posting and maybe you'll see this is a documented issue with the 370's...

I and others added productive comments in earlier posts. You have yet to report back. So, did you try launching your car at 3000 rpm with VDC off as was suggested to you? And how'd that work out? Have you gone to your dealer about this bogging? What did they say?

bushman66 · 06-15-2012, 03:58 PM

The gas pedal delay specifically happens when I launch normally, then "Punch it". One shouldn't have to launch at 3000rpm for the car to run correctly. A perfect example is if you are accelerating normally and have to floor it in case of an emergency.

I have tried this with the VDC off and it still occurs...but have not taken it into the dealer yet, primarily based on the 48 page thread posted above where others have taken it in and the dealer was no help.

Anyway...my apologies if my response was short, I definitely know how to drive the car, and am not taking off in 3rd gear. This is primarily a 1st gear problem.

I have noticed this does not occur in the mornings when the air temp and the car is cool...but as soon as it heats up...Bog city.

henry0844 · 06-15-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bushman66

The gas pedal delay specifically happens when I launch normally, then "Punch it". One shouldn't have to launch at 3000rpm for the car to run correctly. A perfect example is if you are accelerating normally and have to floor it in case of an emergency.

I have tried this with the VDC off and it still occurs...but have not taken it into the dealer yet, primarily based on the 48 page thread posted above where others have taken it in and the dealer was no help.

Anyway...my apologies if my response was short, I definitely know how to drive the car, and am not taking off in 3rd gear. This is primarily a 1st gear problem.

I have noticed this does not occur in the mornings when the air temp and the car is cool...but as soon as it heats up...Bog city.

do you have an uprev tune? I know that the new fan control helps this alot. I had the same issue as well but since the fan control was "tuned" on my car the lag has all but gone away. this, coupled with an oil cooler has worked wonders.

bushman66 · 06-15-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by henry0844

do you have an uprev tune? I know that the new fan control helps this alot. I had the same issue as well but since the fan control was "tuned" on my car the lag has all but gone away. this, coupled with an oil cooler has worked wonders.

This seems to be the only solution that I have read that (nearly) 100% solves the problem, so I'll add the 34 Row Z1 Oil cooler...then do the UpRev with the Fan control tune...

henry0844 · 06-15-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bushman66

This seems to be the only solution that I have read that (nearly) 100% solves the problem, so I'll add the 34 Row Z1 Oil cooler...then do the UpRev with the Fan control tune...

cool man, it will be money well spent. why nissan chose not to implement these two things in stock form is a mystery. hopefully it will resolve your issues. report back on the thread to let us know how it went when all is done.

DIGItonium · 06-15-2012, 10:28 PM

It's even worse with the A/C running. There are times I'm literally flooring it and it's barely achieving warp speed with the turbos haha.

henry0844 · 06-16-2012, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

It's even worse with the A/C running. There are times I'm literally flooring it and it's barely achieving warp speed with the turbos haha.

lol, thats gotta be irritating! someone has got to figure this out. whoever does is going to make some money!!!!

roy'sz · 06-16-2012, 04:17 AM

its normal, it has to due with the throttle response and the amount of fuel being dumped into the engine. Its no different than trying to floor it at 50mph in 6th gear. There is a certain timeframe (speed to gear or rpm's to launch) that your car will respond best at. I launch my car at almost 2k and it takes off fine. What people are also failing to realize is IT'S NOT A V8! Dont expect to get your head shot back upon take off, unless you rebuild the bottom end of the car and force induct the car.

and like the gentleman stated in this thread, a lot of us have put 2cents of good info in but you hvae yet to report back.

bushman66 · 06-17-2012, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by roy'sz

its normal, it has to due with the throttle response and the amount of fuel being dumped into the engine. Its no different than trying to floor it at 50mph in 6th gear. There is a certain timeframe (speed to gear or rpm's to launch) that your car will respond best at. I launch my car at almost 2k and it takes off fine. What people are also failing to realize is IT'S NOT A V8! Dont expect to get your head shot back upon take off, unless you rebuild the bottom end of the car and force induct the car.

and like the gentleman stated in this thread, a lot of us have put 2cents of good info in but you hvae yet to report back.

I have reported back. And the thread has NOTHING to do with "getting your head shot back". It has EVERYTHING to do with the car falling on its face, due to the SHITTY Nissan ECU tuning for a period of 1-2 seconds before the engine catches up. God forbid I ever need to punch it to avoid an accident or something. This car is BLATANTLY unsafe the way it is running now. PERIOD.

I am willing to add an aftermarket oil cooler, or an aftermarket tune, or both, as necessary, to correct something that NISSAN should have addressed LONG AGO. This has been an issue since the 09's came out...

Phaddi_inc · 06-17-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bushman66

I have reported back. And the thread has NOTHING to do with "getting your head shot back". It has EVERYTHING to do with the car falling on its face, due to the SHITTY Nissan ECU tuning for a period of 1-2 seconds before the engine catches up. God forbid I ever need to punch it to avoid an accident or something. This car is BLATANTLY unsafe the way it is running now. PERIOD.

I am willing to add an aftermarket oil cooler, or an aftermarket tune, or both, as necessary, to correct something that NISSAN should have addressed LONG AGO. This has been an issue since the 09's came out...

Yes i agree, Nissan should have added an oil cooler from the factory...having said that, Im done stressing over it. Im getting my oil cooler next week, and in July im getting the uprev tune with the fan control mod. I believe its all related to oil temp and heat soak. Hopefully that will solve 90% of the problem, and i will be happy.

To those who disregard the problem as 'normal' or bad driving habits, clearly you have not experienced this issue. If it was a normal characteristic of the car it would happen all the time and not sometimes, and I certainly hope anyone who has purchased a 370Z knows its a V6 (not a V8).

phaddi_inc

06-15-2012, 01:51 AM	#63 (permalink)
Footloose301 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 2,659 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 21	Are you taking off at 500rpm? Thats the only time mine bogs.... __________________ 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z

06-15-2012, 10:28 PM	#71 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 43	It's even worse with the A/C running. There are times I'm literally flooring it and it's barely achieving warp speed with the turbos haha. __________________

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06-12-2012, 04:03 PM	#61 (permalink)
bushman66 Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 112 Drives: 2012 370Z Red Sp Pkg Rep Power: 15	I have the stock airboxes. Only mod is the F! 18" Stainless CBE.

06-15-2012, 03:58 PM	#67 (permalink)
bushman66 Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 112 Drives: 2012 370Z Red Sp Pkg Rep Power: 15	The gas pedal delay specifically happens when I launch normally, then "Punch it". One shouldn't have to launch at 3000rpm for the car to run correctly. A perfect example is if you are accelerating normally and have to floor it in case of an emergency. I have tried this with the VDC off and it still occurs...but have not taken it into the dealer yet, primarily based on the 48 page thread posted above where others have taken it in and the dealer was no help. Anyway...my apologies if my response was short, I definitely know how to drive the car, and am not taking off in 3rd gear. This is primarily a 1st gear problem. I have noticed this does not occur in the mornings when the air temp and the car is cool...but as soon as it heats up...Bog city.

06-16-2012, 04:17 AM	#73 (permalink)
roy'sz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: palmdale, ca Posts: 1,299 Drives: 2010 nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	its normal, it has to due with the throttle response and the amount of fuel being dumped into the engine. Its no different than trying to floor it at 50mph in 6th gear. There is a certain timeframe (speed to gear or rpm's to launch) that your car will respond best at. I launch my car at almost 2k and it takes off fine. What people are also failing to realize is IT'S NOT A V8! Dont expect to get your head shot back upon take off, unless you rebuild the bottom end of the car and force induct the car. and like the gentleman stated in this thread, a lot of us have put 2cents of good info in but you hvae yet to report back.