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ZOLE 05-08-2012 09:08 PM

Strange engine performance diagnosed and resolved!
 
Thought I would share my recent experience with a random engine "problem" with everybody.

Was on travel all last week (Mon-Fri). Came back home and went to start the Z Saturday. Car started ok at first then sputtered and started to feel like it had no power (check engine light came on). Drove it down the block and back to my garge. Car would not get up past 3,500 - 4,000 rpms in first. I was freaking out at this time!

What could it be? Bad gas? Loss of compression, bad pison rings? Fuel starvation? On and on I kept thinking the worst.

Got the wife to come out to start the vehicle several times for me so I could pinpoint a strange sound (after blipping gas) coming from the driver's side of engine. After about 5 mins. of looking around the engine bay and listening for the strange sound, I finally stumbled upon this...
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...e/IMG_4191.jpg

Turns out that while I was away a rodent got in my engine and chewed away at this harness near the driver's side firewall (VVEL sensor?) and part of some tubing that carries coolant. Next to my car I noticed a box of birdseed that my wife put out in the garage that the rodent got into.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...e/IMG_4192.jpg

Luckily it only ate the two wires. I promplty spliced in two new 20AWG wires (see image below) and and epoxy & taped the partially chewed coolant hose.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...e/IMG_4195.jpg

Cleaned up the repair by placing a new plastic corrugated conduit around the wires and taped it all up. Not exactly sure what the two wires (green & yellow) are, but I believe they provide pwr/gnd/signal to/from the VVEL sensor which would explain the loss of power, i.e. the ECU was confused and the VVEL stepper motor was stuck at the position which would not allow the valves to open all the way.

Very glad I was able to quickly pinpoint the problem and fix it myself. Lessons learned here: 1. Never leave food out for rodents near your car, 2. Put rodent poison/traps out in the garage near the garage door, 3. When car has been sitting for a while and an issue occurs during restart, inspect for rodent damage around engine.

Don't know why this stuff is so enticing to those critters, but I've had this happen years ago when a squirrel took out all the wires in my main engine harness in my Jeep while parked in the city for a week.

Hope this experience will be helpful to others experiencing weird random engine failures :tiphat:

Red__Zed 05-08-2012 09:12 PM

wow, crazy. glad you got it fixed.


Rodents are such a nuisance around cars, be glad they didn't tear up more:rofl2:

anthonyy 05-09-2012 12:16 AM

damn rodents! nice job diagnosing and fixing the problem OP

NYBladeZ 05-09-2012 12:32 AM

Nice issue spotting and self help fix.

1slow370 05-09-2012 02:12 AM

had a mouse eat the entire knock sensor, injector harness on my dads ridgeline which is under the intake manifold. yeah furry little basterd cost us 760.

GaleForce 05-09-2012 06:33 AM

Nice troubleshooting! Thanks for sharing!

indyn 05-09-2012 12:14 PM

rodent cracked the VVEL

twinturbonet 05-09-2012 12:49 PM

Wow! Good find on this!

MaDMaXX 05-09-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 1711028)
... yeah furry little basterd cost us 760.

Haha, sorry, i like this comment :p

Telephone 05-09-2012 04:21 PM

Good find and fix. Get rid of that bird feed.

SPOHN 05-09-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1710926)
Nice issue spotting and self help fix.

:iagree:

LakeShow 05-09-2012 05:13 PM

Wow that's insane man. Stupid rodents.

Waiz 05-09-2012 05:15 PM

Time to adopt a cat :tup:

ZOLE 05-12-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waizzz (Post 1712516)
Time to adopt a cat :tup:

Yeah, we actually have two cats but we normally don't let them into the garage. Now when I go away for more than a few days, think I'll keep the door open so they can take care of business.

Also, I removed the birdseed and went out and got some rodent poison/traps.

IDZRVIT 05-12-2012 06:41 PM

If the hose required epoxy to repair, replace it!


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