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BudzZz 03-16-2012 06:02 PM

Oil Cooler ??
 
I was thinking about bying an oil cooler but I was wondering which one has out performed the rest. Also I wanted to know which one is the easiest to instal without needing a mechanics degree.

Which one do you guys preffer and why ?

spearfish25 03-16-2012 06:18 PM

Welcome. I suggest you try out the search function on the site. There are many many oil cooler threads. Top kits that simplify the install are Z1, Stillen, and Forged. If you like to customize and do it yourself, you can piece your own together. You'll get similar results from just about any oil cooler that has equivalent surface area (number of rows and size) to another. Just pick one for your application. I'd recommend a 25 row cooler for most applications. For forced induction or heavy track use, 30+ rows is preferrable. 16 row coolers are kind of a waste of time. You may need to make a small cover if you drive in cool weather during parts of the year.

cdoxp800 03-16-2012 06:26 PM

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SPOHN 03-16-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1603978)
welcome. I suggest you try out the search function on the site. There are many many oil cooler threads. Top kits that simplify the install are z1, stillen, and forged. If you like to customize and do it yourself, you can piece your own together. You'll get similar results from just about any oil cooler that has equivalent surface area (number of rows and size) to another. Just pick one for your application. I'd recommend a 25 row cooler for most applications. For forced induction or heavy track use, 30+ rows is preferrable. 16 row coolers are kind of a waste of time. You may need to make a small cover if you drive in cool weather during parts of the year.

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JAYNO20 04-22-2012 11:50 PM

best oil cooler for me?
 
I recently bought a Nismo that had a Nissan motorsports oil cooler but I live in a cooler area where I would need a thermostatic plate. I also don't like the braided lines because they were making a high pitched noise apparently. I would like to be able to drain this thing while changing the oil in an easier way than removing the whole thing. Do any of these units mount with the attachments facing down?

Basically I need a thermostatic plate with rubber hoses and have the attachments facing down. Any recommendations?

scionide 04-23-2012 12:18 AM

Z1 Motorsports 370Z/G37 Oil Cooler Kit

:)

SS_Firehawk 04-23-2012 12:55 AM

Maybe check in to Teflon coated braided lines. I wouldn't waste time with rubber lines. Regarding the draining, just mount it with the hoses connecting from the bottom. It's less money than buying something that is already on your vehicle. That's just my two cents. Either way, GL with it.

JAYNO20 04-23-2012 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1679831)
Maybe check in to Teflon coated braided lines. I wouldn't waste time with rubber lines. Regarding the draining, just mount it with the hoses connecting from the bottom. It's less money than buying something that is already on your vehicle. That's just my two cents. Either way, GL with it.

How can I mount it with them facing down? I tried to do it tonight and the way it mounts the attachments hit on the bottom. Its the 34 row cooler from Setrab. I would rather keep everything instead of rebuying if possible, but how can I mount this with the attachments down?

SS_Firehawk 04-23-2012 02:20 AM

I may not be the best to answer this as I have a 72 row that hooks from the side. Either way, it's okay to mix a bit of your old oil with your new. I would say after a few changes, maybe drain your oil cooler and start fresh.

Phenix 04-23-2012 07:46 AM

Draining the oil cooler is usually not necessary. Most cars that come factory equipped with them don't even require it. Also I think Z1 makes a thermostatic conversion don't they?

Edit: http://www.z1motorsports.com/g37_370...oducts_id=4652

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JAYNO20 04-23-2012 01:27 PM

Yeah that's where I was going to get the thermostatic plate from, but I really want this thing to drain every time. The cars that have them from factory are probably mounted in a way that has it drain. How can I mount this cooler with the fittings facing down?

sixpax 04-23-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JAYNO20 (Post 1680614)
Yeah that's where I was going to get the thermostatic plate from, but I really want this thing to drain every time. The cars that have them from factory are probably mounted in a way that has it drain. How can I mount this cooler with the fittings facing down?

Keep in mind that while this will make it so you can drain it everytime, that it also makes it easier for the oil to escape when you don't want it to. :tup:

fuct 04-23-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1679871)
I may not be the best to answer this as I have a 72 row that hooks from the side. Either way, it's okay to mix a bit of your old oil with your new. I would say after a few changes, maybe drain your oil cooler and start fresh.

72?! can we see a pic of this? and why such a large oil cooler?

ChrisSlicks 04-23-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JAYNO20 (Post 1680614)
Yeah that's where I was going to get the thermostatic plate from, but I really want this thing to drain every time. The cars that have them from factory are probably mounted in a way that has it drain. How can I mount this cooler with the fittings facing down?

The issue you then run into is that it becomes difficult to get an accurate oil-level reading. Every time you shut off the car the oil from the cooler drains back into the sump throwing off your dipstick reading.

It might be possible to get a skilled machine shop to add a drain plug fitting to the bottom of the cooler, you would just have to take care that it was properly re-torqued so as to not become a potential point of failure.

ChrisSlicks 04-23-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1680807)
72?! can we see a pic of this? and why such a large oil cooler?

It's not that large, just twice as wide and skinnier. Same surface area as the 34-row. I have one too :)

JAYNO20 04-23-2012 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1680868)
The issue you then run into is that it becomes difficult to get an accurate oil-level reading. Every time you shut off the car the oil from the cooler drains back into the sump throwing off your dipstick reading.

It might be possible to get a skilled machine shop to add a drain plug fitting to the bottom of the cooler, you would just have to take care that it was properly re-torqued so as to not become a potential point of failure.

Yeah I had thought about that too, any idea who could do something like that?

fuct 04-23-2012 03:45 PM

ahhh interesting.

MacLean 04-23-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1680807)
72?! can we see a pic of this? and why such a large oil cooler?

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1680869)
It's not that large, just twice as wide and skinnier. Same surface area as the 34-row. I have one too :)

I never knew there was a 72. You should not have to worry one effen bit about oil temp getting high then.

ChrisSlicks 04-23-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cgmg21 (Post 1680906)
I never knew there was a 72. You should not have to worry one effen bit about oil temp getting high then.

I still get limp mode on track on hot days :crying:
I'm looking at other ways to increase air flow.

MacLean 04-23-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1680949)
I still get limp mode on track on hot days :crying:
I'm looking at other ways to increase air flow.

WOW..... :shakes head: I'm a little surprised. How long (time) are you racing on the track? I figured you would get a breather here & there instead of going the whole time you are there.

ChrisSlicks 04-23-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cgmg21 (Post 1681020)
WOW..... :shakes head: I'm a little surprised. How long (time) are you racing on the track? I figured you would get a breather here & there instead of going the whole time you are there.

20 minute sessions is typical, sometimes 30 minutes. You're always backing off here and there during the session but the heat just accumulates and by the 15 minute mark it can become too much if it is 90+ degrees ambient.

One of the problems I found is that placing a large oil cooler in front of the radiator reduces airflow to the radiator and creates a high pressure zone that reduces the airflow to both the radiator and the oil cooler. An alternative would be to place 2 smaller oil coolers off to each side in front of each wheel, but that is a lot of oil hose to run and requires some custom fabrication for mounting.

MacLean 04-23-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1681145)
20 minute sessions is typical, sometimes 30 minutes. You're always backing off here and there during the session but the heat just accumulates and by the 15 minute mark it can become too much if it is 90+ degrees ambient.

One of the problems I found is that placing a large oil cooler in front of the radiator reduces airflow to the radiator and creates a high pressure zone that reduces the airflow to both the radiator and the oil cooler. An alternative would be to place 2 smaller oil coolers off to each side in front of each wheel, but that is a lot of oil hose to run and requires some custom fabrication for mounting.

That would work for sure & you will have to pay out some good money for that customization. Now the question is how much would that help out & would it actually be worth the price & is the juice worth the squeeze. Remember you have to pay to play.

SS_Firehawk 04-23-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1680807)
72?! can we see a pic of this? and why such a large oil cooler?

Please forgive me as the car is pretty dirty in this pic. It's the AE performance Oil Cooler. Works like a champ I might add. It's been 100+ already and I haven't seen it much over 200 idling in traffic.


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