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marrim 01-24-2012 05:16 PM

I find that the Z has a issue of shifting between 1st and 2nd if not timed perfectly. My 6 speed manual accord had issuses from 2nd to 3rd. Each transmission has it quirks. Its just learning how to deal with it.

m4a1mustang 01-24-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 1507107)
geez... i was cutting 1.90 60's on stock 19s/tires, completely BALD, when my car was stock, on a 95 degree day, with the added neg camber from lowering without alignment!!@ pretty easy car to launch (at stock power) if you ask me!

You know how it is.

m4a1mustang 01-24-2012 05:24 PM

Anyways, since the problem at hand is beating an MS3 off the line, the only solution is to hit up the track and practice.

Z_Girl 01-24-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1507080)
Your Z will absolutely beat a MS3 off the line and all the way down the track... trust me :)

:iagree: what is your launch RPM?


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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1507099)
ALSO, since we know where this is taking place... anything can happen. You both need to get to the track and see what happens there.


:tup: :tup:

keb370z 01-24-2012 08:04 PM

My husband would never drag race me on a track. He knows his precious Speed would lose, and he's not interested in proving it. And he's a big fan of the Z, too, so there's really no need. But I can't deny that when I drive his Speed, it just feels crazy fast. Almost hard to keep on the road fast.

But, let's go back a little. Forget about a launch.

Say you're on the track next to a brand new stock automatic Chevy Malibu. Say, rule is you can't touch the gas until the flag comes down. Theoretically, the Malibu driver is going to stomp that pedal and you hit the gas and let out the clutch. Even if you're really good, it's going to be him off the line first, easy, and then it will be neck and neck, probably him ahead, until you're in high RMPs in 2nd. Then you win.

That's what I'm saying.

FL 4Motion 01-24-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keb370z (Post 1507513)
My husband would never drag race me on a track. He knows his precious Speed would lose, and he's not interested in proving it. And he's a big fan of the Z, too, so there's really no need. But I can't deny that when I drive his Speed, it just feels crazy fast. Almost hard to keep on the road fast.

But, let's go back a little. Forget about a launch.

Say you're on the track next to a brand new stock automatic Chevy Malibu. Say, rule is you can't touch the gas until the flag comes down. Theoretically, the Malibu driver is going to stomp that pedal and you hit the gas and let out the clutch. Even if you're really good, it's going to be him off the line first, easy, and then it will be neck and neck, probably him ahead, until you're in high RMPs in 2nd. Then you win.

That's what I'm saying.

In the race for fastest 0-6, prius owns all, jsut sayin.

m4a1mustang 01-24-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1507520)
In the race for fastest 0-6, prius owns all, jsut sayin.

Truth.

Red__Zed 01-24-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1507520)
In the race for fastest 0-6, prius owns all, jsut sayin.

:icon17:

m4a1mustang 01-24-2012 08:09 PM

Anyways, if someone gets the jump on you, then yeah, you're playing catch up.

However, if you're planning on getting a move on at launch your foot should be on the gas while you're sitting still.

Hold your launch RPM, prepare to slip the clutch and modulate throttle.

Skeeterbop 01-24-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1507520)
In the race for fastest 0-6, prius owns all, jsut sayin.

:icon18::icon18:
I thought the Leaf pwns all. We've already seen a video of it beating the Z in a drag race :roflpuke2:

TopElement 01-24-2012 09:48 PM

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Nissan could have very well programmed the ecu to soften power delivery at low speeds or in first gear.
The car definitely lacks power at low rpm's on the street, but pulls good at 2000 rpm in fifth or sixth gear.

keb370z 01-24-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1507525)
...prepare to slip the clutch...

:eek: Not my baby!!!

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Originally Posted by TopElement (Post 1507727)
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Nissan could have very well programmed the ecu to soften power delivery at low speeds or in first gear.
The car definitely lacks power at low rpm's on the street, but pulls good at 2000 rpm in fifth or sixth gear.

:iagree:

m4a1mustang 01-24-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by keb370z (Post 1507772)
:eek: Not my baby!!!

You've got to launch the car if you wanna go fast!

keb370z 01-24-2012 10:28 PM

And you know what people? I think m4a1mustang figured this whole thing out. I never slip the clutch. Ever. My entire life up until a few years ago was spent being poor and driving used cars with an almost used up clutch I was trying to squeeze as many miles out of as I could. So I have myself trained to never slip the clutch.

So. Guess I just need to slip the clutch more?

Not that it's going to happen. Just theoretically.

keb370z 01-24-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1507520)
In the race for fastest 0-6, prius owns all, jsut sayin.

And we all know Prius beats us in the Style category, too, so let's just not go there.


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