Ester Oil / Mobile1 - Interesting Link

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-26-2011, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldr911

Many others seem to use M1 in their Z. And ya - its my daily driver so looking to get <75k out of it before selling / trading.

Many others must be a bunch of people like you who are looking to spend the least amount of money possible on an oil change with little regard to optimum vs average to subpar performance depending on your driving style and/or weather conditions of the day.
Why not spend an extra $9 and give a better oil a try.

ronaldr911 · 12-26-2011, 11:13 PM

Is it only $9? Where can you get redline for that price? The MB1 is like $30 / 5qts.

Didn't realize how sensitive people are about their oil.... I havent even done an oil change on it yet - just got it a month ago!

svt to 370z · 12-26-2011, 11:17 PM

Before my first oil change i did a lot of research on this site and others and found mobil 1 full synthetic to be a pretty high quality oil. UNKNOWN you make it sound like it is junk. I have been pretty happy with it, in fact i noticed the exact opposite my oil temps have been consistantly lower with the mobil 1.

VCuomo · 12-26-2011, 11:18 PM

Oh God, not another "my oil is better than yours" thread...

ronaldr911 · 12-26-2011, 11:36 PM

Also - I looked at the product spec. sheets for MB1 and RL and they don't seem like one is way worse than the other... I guess I can run MB1 for a for months and then try RL and see if there is a difference.

Mobil 1 Extended Performance

Red Line Synthetic Oil - Motor Oil - 5W30 Motor Oil

Also in the owners manual under “ENGINE OIL AND OIL FILTER RECOMMENDATION" it does not mention esters... But - I do see under the specifications where it does say it is "recommended".

http://www.nissanextendedwarranty.co...issan-370Z.pdf

Just looking for some advise - Not trying to argue about oils.

svt to 370z · 12-26-2011, 11:50 PM

i asked the nissan dealership by my house. The guy working service there said that its not essential to run the ester but it is recommended. I guess it probably depends on who you talk to and what kinda mood they are in that day.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-27-2011, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldr911

Is it only $9? Where can you get redline for that price? The MB1 is like $30 / 5qts.

Didn't realize how sensitive people are about their oil.... I havent even done an oil change on it yet - just got it a month ago!

I said castrol edge is 9 bucks more and keeps the engine twmps lower under harder driving.

KillerBee370 · 12-27-2011, 12:46 AM

I use Mobil 1 and the other day a unicorn popped out of my tailpipe.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-27-2011, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldr911

Also - I looked at the product spec. sheets for MB1 and RL and they don't seem like one is way worse than the other... I guess I can run MB1 for a for months and then try RL and see if there is a difference.

Mobil 1 Extended Performance

Red Line Synthetic Oil - Motor Oil - 5W30 Motor Oil

Also in the owners manual under “ENGINE OIL AND OIL FILTER RECOMMENDATION" it does not mention esters... But - I do see under the specifications where it does say it is "recommended".

http://www.nissanextendedwarranty.co...issan-370Z.pdf

Just looking for some advise - Not trying to argue about oils.

Dude, do some research on here from 09 when many Z's were battling different types of oil issues. Its not like nissan ester was recommended right off the bat. There were many issues going on with using some basic oils. the only reason it is still only a recommendation is because some Z's didn't get to the point to have to go to the dealership for service. But anyway, this is my last post on the topic. In actuality, there's a plethora of oil threads on here. This is just one of hundreds.
Like I said earlier. If you are convinced mobil1 is best for these HR engines, then by all means be my guest.

Happy holiday n good luck to ya Ronald

ronaldr911 · 12-27-2011, 01:09 AM

Thought Castrol Edge and M1 EP are both group IV oils.

EazyD · 12-27-2011, 01:14 AM

I see lower temps with Mobile 1. Did conventional for first two oil changes then switched. Also can go what, 7500 mi before another change?

KingZee · 12-27-2011, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldr911

Yes I realize that - but I've also read several other sites. I guess I'll just keep an eye on the oil temp. Do you all use redline?

I use redline...my logic is this: $30K + car. Price difference between M1 and Redline ~$5.

Oil change every 5k miles, 100,000/5000=20

6 quarts per oil change

20 oil changes @ 6 qts = 120 qts total.

120 x 5 = $600 price difference in oil between Redline and Mobil 1 over 100,000 mi on a $30,000+ high performance car. Seriously, do you really give that much of a fvck? That's a little more than my monthly payment on the car.

ronaldr911 · 12-27-2011, 02:18 AM

^ I think the price difference is greater for me. M1 costs about $25 for 5qts, but it looks like redline is around $50... so the difference would be 120 qts x $25 = $3,000. Over the life of the car - not earth shattering I guess.

Also saw this post which was interesting :

Oil Nerds Info

Making me consider the Castrol more and more... although I don't think either one will really eff your car up if you check and drain it regularly.

KingZee · 12-27-2011, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldr911

^ I think the price difference is greater for me. M1 costs about $25 for 5qts, but it looks like redline is around $50... so the difference would be 120 qts x $25 = $3,000. Over the life of the car - not earth shattering I guess.

Also saw this post which was interesting :

Oil Nerds Info

Making me consider the Castrol more and more... although I don't think either one will really eff your car up if you check and drain it regularly.

I think your math's a little off...that's for 5 quarts so you wouldn't multiply that by 120 you'd multiple it by 120/5 = 24

24 x $25 = $600

ronaldr911 · 12-27-2011, 02:44 AM

my bad - i see you were saying $5 per quart... thats right i guess its $600.

12-26-2011, 11:13 PM	#17 (permalink)
ronaldr911 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 188 Drives: 370Z Nismo '10 Rep Power: 14	Is it only $9? Where can you get redline for that price? The MB1 is like $30 / 5qts. Didn't realize how sensitive people are about their oil.... I havent even done an oil change on it yet - just got it a month ago! Last edited by ronaldr911; 12-26-2011 at 11:16 PM.

12-27-2011, 01:14 AM	#26 (permalink)
EazyD A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 1,211 Drives: 2010 6MT Sport pkg. Rep Power: 26	I see lower temps with Mobile 1. Did conventional for first two oil changes then switched. Also can go what, 7500 mi before another change? __________________ Pearl White 2010 370Z Sport, Stillen CBE, tint, K&N drop-in filters, GT-R start button, Kenwood DNX-6980 with backup cam, LED bulbs, Raceseng shift knob.

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12-26-2011, 11:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
ronaldr911 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 188 Drives: 370Z Nismo '10 Rep Power: 14	Also - I looked at the product spec. sheets for MB1 and RL and they don't seem like one is way worse than the other... I guess I can run MB1 for a for months and then try RL and see if there is a difference. Mobil 1 Extended Performance Red Line Synthetic Oil - Motor Oil - 5W30 Motor Oil Also in the owners manual under “ENGINE OIL AND OIL FILTER RECOMMENDATION" it does not mention esters... But - I do see under the specifications where it does say it is "recommended". http://www.nissanextendedwarranty.co...issan-370Z.pdf Just looking for some advise - Not trying to argue about oils.

12-26-2011, 11:50 PM	#21 (permalink)
svt to 370z Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: berea,oh Posts: 139 Drives: 09 red 370z 6mt Rep Power: 14	i asked the nissan dealership by my house. The guy working service there said that its not essential to run the ester but it is recommended. I guess it probably depends on who you talk to and what kinda mood they are in that day.

12-27-2011, 12:46 AM	#23 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 51 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 321	I use Mobil 1 and the other day a unicorn popped out of my tailpipe.

12-27-2011, 01:09 AM	#25 (permalink)
ronaldr911 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 188 Drives: 370Z Nismo '10 Rep Power: 14	Thought Castrol Edge and M1 EP are both group IV oils.

12-27-2011, 02:18 AM	#28 (permalink)
ronaldr911 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 188 Drives: 370Z Nismo '10 Rep Power: 14	^ I think the price difference is greater for me. M1 costs about $25 for 5qts, but it looks like redline is around $50... so the difference would be 120 qts x $25 = $3,000. Over the life of the car - not earth shattering I guess. Also saw this post which was interesting : Oil Nerds Info Making me consider the Castrol more and more... although I don't think either one will really eff your car up if you check and drain it regularly.

12-27-2011, 02:44 AM	#30 (permalink)
ronaldr911 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 188 Drives: 370Z Nismo '10 Rep Power: 14	my bad - i see you were saying $5 per quart... thats right i guess its $600.