7A Transmission...dare I commit heresy?

Mecinoid · 12-16-2011, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I don't really know what it feels like to drive a 6MT in traffic, but I can see why it would be really annoying/tiring.

We'll a 6MT manageable as long as you can creep along. If you have to actually stop every 10-20ft like I've had to do for the past 3 years or so around here; it can be very hard on your leg and car. The 1st gear in these autos is so low that you can creep it along most of the time without hitting the brakes. But, if you have to it's an easy step on the gas without wearing out your left leg if you'd have to clutch a 1000 times on the way home. It was getting that bad on my 25min turned into 1:30 mins return home ride.

Now, I can simply let it creep and hit the brake every so often. It still takes the same 1:30 mins to return home somedays (~2-3 days a week) but, my left leg / knee are not sore when I get home anymore. I figure the auto Z will save me a knee replacement at the very least.

Mecinoid · 12-16-2011, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Uh... it really does shift as fast or faster than 95% of people can possibly clutch in clutch out... recorded with Osiris software. Also faster in average 1/4 mile and 0-60 times, which corroborate with that. Maybe you test drove one that isn't in good repair?

It's also influenced by trans fluid temp and throttle position, so if the fluid was cold and you didn't give it much pedal, it might feel a bit more granny shift-ish.

Also best to have VDC off.

And throttle response on both AT and MT needs to be tweaked.

Anyway, like I said, you can turn the shift speed and firmness waaaay up with Osiris.

I'd try a different one or see if someone around you has a tuned one to play with before you decide... That said, if you prefer a MT, go for it!

Oh yeah, I had VDC off day before yesterdayand tried this: Shifted to manual mode @ 50 Car went into 5th. Double pulled the -shift paddle punched the gas. Lit up the tires for about 10ft in 3rd while thrusting the car forward with great attority. I didn't expect that. I was truly impressed. It's all about learning what and how to accomplish what you want out of the S7.

b1adesofcha0s · 12-16-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecinoid

We'll a 6MT manageable as long as you can creep along. If you have to actually stop every 10-20ft like I've had to do for the past 3 years or so around here; it can be very hard on your leg and car. The 1st gear in these autos is so low that you can creep it along most of the time without hitting the brakes. But, if you have to it's an easy step on the gas without wearing out your left leg if you'd have to clutch a 1000 times on the way home. It was getting that bad on my 25min turned into 1:30 mins return home ride.

Now, I can simply let it creep and hit the brake every so often. It still takes the same 1:30 mins to return home somedays (~2-3 days a week) but, my left leg / knee are not sore when I get home anymore. I figure the auto Z will save me a knee replacement at the very least.

Yeah that's like my everyday commute to school. It takes 30 mins if there's no traffic, but most mornings/evenings it takes an hour or longer.

wstar · 12-16-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecinoid

Shifted to manual mode @ 50 Car went into 5th. Double pulled the -shift paddle punched the gas.

That's brings up others features and quirks worth mentioning that aren't in this thread:

You can multi-click the paddles before a shift completes and drop down (and presumably up? never tried) multiple gears much faster than waiting for each to complete.
If you're driving in D-mode, the gear indicator on the dash just shows "D", so if you're not paying careful attention to every little gentle shift you won't know exactly which gear you're in, especially at low speeds/rpms/throttle.
If D happens to be in gears 1-5, it generally stays in the same gear if you flip the control to M-mode. If D happens to be in 6 or 7, it downshifts to 5 when you flip the control to M-mode.
You can also use the paddle shifters to temporarily change gears while in D-mode, and it will revert to full-auto after you leave them alone for a bit.
You can defeat the auto-downshift from 7 -> 5 when switching D -> M at highway cruising speeds by clicking the upshift button first (which goes to temporary manual mode and stays in 7), and then moving the selector to M.

Note: I hardly ever use D-mode, so I could be slightly wrong on details there, but that's what I remember

Thechidz · 12-16-2011, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

That's brings up others features and quirks worth mentioning that aren't in this thread:

You can multi-click the paddles before a shift completes and drop down (and presumably up? never tried) multiple gears much faster than waiting for each to complete.
If you're driving in D-mode, the gear indicator on the dash just shows "D", so if you're not paying careful attention to every little gentle shift you won't know exactly which gear you're in, especially at low speeds/rpms/throttle.
If D happens to be in gears 1-5, it generally stays in the same gear if you flip the control to M-mode. If D happens to be in 6 or 7, it downshifts to 5 when you flip the control to M-mode.
You can also use the paddle shifters to temporarily change gears while in D-mode, and it will revert to full-auto after you leave them alone for a bit.
You can defeat the auto-downshift from 7 -> 5 when switching D -> M at highway cruising speeds by clicking the upshift button first (which goes to temporary manual mode and stays in 7), and then moving the selector to M.

Note: I hardly ever use D-mode, so I could be slightly wrong on details there, but that's what I remember

didnt know that

Thechidz · 12-16-2011, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecinoid

We'll a 6MT manageable as long as you can creep along. If you have to actually stop every 10-20ft like I've had to do for the past 3 years or so around here; it can be very hard on your leg and car. The 1st gear in these autos is so low that you can creep it along most of the time without hitting the brakes. But, if you have to it's an easy step on the gas without wearing out your left leg if you'd have to clutch a 1000 times on the way home. It was getting that bad on my 25min turned into 1:30 mins return home ride.

Now, I can simply let it creep and hit the brake every so often. It still takes the same 1:30 mins to return home somedays (~2-3 days a week) but, my left leg / knee are not sore when I get home anymore. I figure the auto Z will save me a knee replacement at the very least.

yep, exactly why I can't do manual anymore. I have a metal plate in my left ankle and driving a m6 in manhattan traffic is torture. the 7at does the job of replicating the fun of the manual just fine

Dark Sarcasm · 12-17-2011, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

That's brings up others features and quirks worth mentioning that aren't in this thread:

You can multi-click the paddles before a shift completes and drop down (and presumably up? never tried) multiple gears much faster than waiting for each to complete.
If you're driving in D-mode, the gear indicator on the dash just shows "D", so if you're not paying careful attention to every little gentle shift you won't know exactly which gear you're in, especially at low speeds/rpms/throttle.
If D happens to be in gears 1-5, it generally stays in the same gear if you flip the control to M-mode. If D happens to be in 6 or 7, it downshifts to 5 when you flip the control to M-mode.

You can also use the paddle shifters to temporarily change gears while in D-mode, and it will revert to full-auto after you leave them alone for a bit.
You can defeat the auto-downshift from 7 -> 5 when switching D -> M at highway cruising speeds by clicking the upshift button first (which goes to temporary manual mode and stays in 7), and then moving the selector to M.

Note: I hardly ever use D-mode, so I could be slightly wrong on details there, but that's what I remember

This! Soo much better than flooring it and waiting on the tranny to downshift. When hitting an on ramp just click the left paddle twice and punch it!!

AlphaSnacks · 12-17-2011, 04:53 PM

Traffic in a 6MT is not bad at all. You're mostly coasting at 3-5MPH in 1st or 2nd, or slipping the clutch a tad with some quick throttle inputs and letting the car move forward every now and then.

The only reason I hate traffic in my 6MT is because I know the clutch hates it and heats up quite a bit with the non-stop stop-and-go for 45 minutes.

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AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	Traffic in a 6MT is not bad at all. You're mostly coasting at 3-5MPH in 1st or 2nd, or slipping the clutch a tad with some quick throttle inputs and letting the car move forward every now and then. The only reason I hate traffic in my 6MT is because I know the clutch hates it and heats up quite a bit with the non-stop stop-and-go for 45 minutes.