Nissan 370Z Forum  

Stillen grounding kit-50 hp gain?

Originally Posted by wheee! The speed of the signal from the sensors to the actuators IS affected by the ground path IF there is resistance between the sensors and the

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain


Like Tree1Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-26-2011, 12:09 PM   #16 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3594
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wheee! View Post
The speed of the signal from the sensors to the actuators IS affected by the ground path IF there is resistance between the sensors and the actuators. Hence a stronger/better ground will complete the signal more efficiently. Albeit minutely...
The accuracy of the volts or ohms reading might be affected, but any change in the "speed" of the signal is so small as to be completely ignorable. I doubt you could even find the equipment to measure it accurately

Quote:
together to ground can only help further down the road when corrosion/wear and tear etc start to take their toll.
Well, the other side of that argument is that if you added the ground wires to a new car, they're going wear/corrode at the same rate as the factory wiring. At some point you'll have to fix one or both down the road.
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 12:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wheee!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mod Capital of Canada
Age: 57
Posts: 7,354
Drives: cars. lots of cars.
Rep Power: 40182
wheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wstar View Post
The accuracy of the volts or ohms reading might be affected, but any change in the "speed" of the signal is so small as to be completely ignorable. I doubt you could even find the equipment to measure it accurately



Well, the other side of that argument is that if you added the ground wires to a new car, they're going wear/corrode at the same rate as the factory wiring. At some point you'll have to fix one or both down the road.
Let's not complicate this discussion by using logic now....
__________________

H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more...
My Journal
wheee! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 12:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wheee!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mod Capital of Canada
Age: 57
Posts: 7,354
Drives: cars. lots of cars.
Rep Power: 40182
wheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Next you'll tell me the Titanium dress up bolts don't offer significant fuel savings over stock!
__________________

H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more...
My Journal
wheee! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 12:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Guard Dad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: South Orange County, CA
Posts: 422
Drives: 2010 370Z Silver A7
Rep Power: 15
Guard Dad will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wheee! View Post
Next you'll tell me the Titanium dress up bolts don't offer significant fuel savings over stock!
They don't? I feel betrayed.

You are both onto something, the actual speed (not to be confused with its quality) of the signal is unchanged but a poor ground can add unwanted resistance (potentially introducing errors into sensor readings) and reduced current (amps) carrying capacity, both of which can create problems.

Last edited by Guard Dad; 10-26-2011 at 12:54 PM.
Guard Dad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 01:32 PM   #20 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
cossie1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: californee way
Posts: 5,380
Drives: 370, Leaf
Rep Power: 30
cossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I had a dyno run between having the grounding kit on and off, it made no difference at all
cossie1600 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 01:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wheee!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mod Capital of Canada
Age: 57
Posts: 7,354
Drives: cars. lots of cars.
Rep Power: 40182
wheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

nor should it
__________________

H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more...
My Journal
wheee! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 01:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: 33908
Posts: 382
Drives: 2010 Nismo,2008 R32
Rep Power: 15
ScGRaceR is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cossie1600 View Post
I had a dyno run between having the grounding kit on and off, it made no difference at all
sayss the guy with the eletric car profile pic!!!
fftwww
__________________
2010 PW Nismo: GT-R Start / Stop | Kenwood Navi / DVD | Escort X50 | F.I 18' CF | F.I Resonated Test Pipes | PasswordJDM | Post MAF Tubes | K&N Drop In's 297 RWHP 9/25/11
WTB SPARE RIM TIRE. PM ME
ScGRaceR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 07:06 PM   #23 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
cossie1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: californee way
Posts: 5,380
Drives: 370, Leaf
Rep Power: 30
cossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScGRaceR View Post
sayss the guy with the eletric car profile pic!!!
fftwww
It does have a 1.8L gas engine.....
cossie1600 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[FOR SALE] Stillen Grounding Kit (Red) esfourteen Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 4 09-26-2011 06:02 PM
[FOR SALE] STILLEN Grounding Kit red COLDSHOT Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 2 09-22-2011 02:08 AM
FS BNIB Stillen Grounding Kit ilostmypill Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 8 09-29-2010 05:27 PM
FS: BNIB Stillen Grounding Kit kuhan Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 2 09-25-2010 12:56 PM
stillen grounding kit 4r3s Engine & Drivetrain 9 06-23-2010 06:08 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2