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'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 03:35 PM

2012 Z Factory Oil Cooler - PIC AND PART NUMBERS INSIDE
 
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Ladies and gentleman, below I give you... the 2012 Nissan 370Z OEM water-to-oil cooler. Sorry for the dark picture, but this is from a dealer who was nice enough to put a 2012 Z on the lift and snap the pic.

2012 Nissan Z Oil Cooler part #21300-SS370



also of interest...

2012 Nissan Z Chassis Brake Cooling Kit part #E4420-1EA00

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 03:50 PM

Get any pics of the ducting?

kenchan 10-18-2011 03:53 PM

cool. that's wat i was kinda expecting. :)

yah, pict of the ducts would be cool. there was a member here that routed from the fang faux vent and ended up with higher temps than without. :icon14:

azn370z 10-18-2011 03:54 PM

Thanks for the pic. This is what I was expecting too.

b1adesofcha0s 10-18-2011 03:57 PM

Thanks for getting the pic :tup:

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 03:57 PM

The dealer didnt get ducting pictures unfortunately, wish he had.

DarkZide 10-18-2011 04:01 PM

You sure about the ducting part #? It comes back as a Nismo 370z strut brace kit.

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 04:04 PM

Oh, maybe he misunderstood me.. apologies on that

memorylasts 10-18-2011 04:12 PM

Very interesting.... who is going to be the first to try it out?

Cell 10-18-2011 04:18 PM

How efficient is a water to oil cooler vs using air?

Cmike2780 10-18-2011 04:19 PM

interesting

Mt Tam I am 10-18-2011 04:21 PM

Now all we need is somebody with a 2012 to go flog theirs and report on oil temp.

kenchan 10-18-2011 04:25 PM

^^ indeed. be funny if the water overheated instead. :D

Deadman 10-18-2011 04:26 PM

NISMO 21300-SS370 2009+ Nissan 370z Engine Oil Cooler
Your Price $780.00 *Includes Free Ground Shipping*

Category: Cooling - Oil Cooler
Make: Nissan
Model: 370Z (Z34)
Years: 2009+

Availability: Usually Ships in 1 to 2 Weeks
Product Code: NISMO-21300-SS370

http://www.nissanraceshop.com/produc...70z-21300ss370 0_o something isnt right LOL

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1365417)
^^ indeed. be funny if the water overheated instead. :D

It likely will, but it will take a lot to get there. I'm curious if they adjusted limp mode lower. Exposing 300* oil to coolant is idiotic

UNKNOWN_370 10-18-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadman (Post 1365420)
NISMO 21300-SS370 2009+ Nissan 370z Engine Oil Cooler
Your Price $780.00 *Includes Free Ground Shipping*

Category: Cooling - Oil Cooler
Make: Nissan
Model: 370Z (Z34)
Years: 2009+

Availability: Usually Ships in 1 to 2 Weeks
Product Code: NISMO-21300-SS370

Nismo Racing Oil Cooler Kit Nissan 370Z - 21300-SS370 - Nismo 0_o something isnt right LOL

They've been offering this for two years now. You can get this part as a seperate NISMO part and I don't think this is the same oil cooler that's in the 12 Z's this is an actual racing cooler.

Cmike2780 10-18-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1365461)
They've been offering this for two years now. You can get this part as a seperate NISMO part and I don't think this is the same oil cooler that's in the 12 Z's this is an actual racing cooler.

No sir it is not. Also not covered under factory warranty if installed.

Scott@FontanaNissan 10-18-2011 08:19 PM

yeah...it's not a water to oil cooler!

We have the Nissan Motorsports Oil Cooler -- 5 in stock!

Nismo Racing Oil Cooler Kit Nissan 370Z - 21300-SS370 - Nismo

i've never seen a water to oil cooler

Scott

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott@FontanaNissan (Post 1365773)
yeah...it's not a water to oil cooler!

We have the Nissan Motorsports Oil Cooler -- 5 in stock!

Nismo Racing Oil Cooler Kit Nissan 370Z - 21300-SS370 - Nismo

i've never seen a water to oil cooler

Scott

have ever seen a car before? they are very common.


This cooler is obviously passing coolant, as you can see.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1318988139

KaienZ34 10-18-2011 10:47 PM

There are about 5 threads all talking about the same thing at the same time. :icon14:

Jordo! 10-19-2011 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1365391)
How efficient is a water to oil cooler vs using air?

Overall, superior. Faster warm up to ideal operating temp, easier to maintain ideal temps. Water does a much better job than air of absorbing heat.

Someone from Nissan actually called me regarding my query on this for those of us with 2009-2011 models... will report back after I return the call.

Cell 10-19-2011 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1366138)
Overall, superior. Faster warm up to ideal operating temp, easier to maintain ideal temps. Water does a much better job than air of absorbing heat.

Someone from Nissan actually called me regarding my query on this for those of us with 2009-2011 models... will report back after I return the call.

If water cooled is better then why hasn't any aftermarket companies design one that is water cooled for our cars? That was one of the things that had me thinking.

memorylasts 10-19-2011 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1366150)
If water cooled is better then why hasn't any aftermarket companies design one that is water cooled for our cars? That was one of the things that had me thinking.

Because it generally costs more, there is a bit more r&d from what I gather...

Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Jordo! 10-19-2011 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1366150)
If water cooled is better then why hasn't any aftermarket companies design one that is water cooled for our cars? That was one of the things that had me thinking.

The same reason that some cars were once air cooled -- fewer parts required, and therefore less cost.

But most of us (outside of fans old Porsches) prefer water cooled motors...

It's more of a debate with intercoolers for FI applications because cooler really is always better, and in some situations, air-to-air coolers will work as well or better as water-to-air.

For oil, cooler is not always better. Geting up to operating temp quickly and being able to stay there with little fluctuation is ideal.

Red__Zed 10-19-2011 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1366150)
If water cooled is better then why hasn't any aftermarket companies design one that is water cooled for our cars? That was one of the things that had me thinking.

Because it probably requires modding the radiator

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1366138)
Overall, superior. Faster warm up to ideal operating temp, easier to maintain ideal temps. Water does a much better job than air of absorbing heat.

Someone from Nissan actually called me regarding my query on this for those of us with 2009-2011 models... will report back after I return the call.

It's inferior in terms of cooling, superior in consitency.

The two smaller temperature deltas make cooling through the rad less efficient.

Jordo! 10-20-2011 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1366225)
Because it probably requires modding the radiator



It's inferior in terms of cooling, superior in consitency.

The two smaller temperature deltas make cooling through the rad less efficient.

Well... right. But cooler isn't always better -- I'm thinking specifically in terms of what would be ideal ("superior") for a DD; for a track only car, air is fine, notwithstanding leak issues.

...

Actually, I just found your commentary on this in another thread, and we are on the same page in terms of what kind of cooler tends to work best for a given application :tup:

Jordo! 10-20-2011 08:20 AM

Hey -- hang on -- did I just read that the cooler isn't easily backwards compatable!? :icon14:

Is the radiator P/N the same for the new cars? I don't understand why you can't just plumb it in if it makes use if existing lines.

It can't be that different?! :shakes head:

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1368246)
Hey -- hang on -- did I just read that the cooler isn't easily backwards compatable!? :icon14:

Is the radiator P/N the same for the new cars? I don't understand why you can't just plumb it in if it makes use if existing lines.

It can't be that different?! :shakes head:

At this point we don't know. Unknown's service manager says it is not backwards compatible---I will reserve judgment until after I see it.

cossie1600 10-20-2011 08:31 AM

The oil cooler lines are usually a lot smaller, so you would have to tee after your current radiator lines into a smaller one. Can you say, coolant leak?

'10Anamoly 10-20-2011 08:44 AM

You wont necessarily have a coolant leak. It's pretty easy to seal coolant hoses. I would not tap into one though, you could find an inline hose adapter, although the sizing of the ports needs to be big enough.

Something like the coolant tee at the bottom of the link below.

http://www.vulcanturbo.com/coolingacc.html

LunaZ 10-20-2011 08:51 PM

I'm not getting how the pictured oil cooler works.
A coolant line is shown running to the sandwich-adapter between the engine and the oil filter. Are there galleys in the plate that the oil is passing through to cool down on its way into or out of the oil filter?

LunaZ 10-20-2011 08:57 PM

Nevermind. I Googled up an image of the S2000's unit:

[IMG]****************************MotoIQ/Project-Cars/Project-S2000/i-4mG4nMr/0/L/IMG0980-L.jpg[/IMG]

L33T Z34 10-21-2011 09:57 AM

Oil Cooler (water sandwich plate)
 
Here's the real part numbers. Pulled this from the Arabian Nissan FAST. All parts can now be ordered through Nissan North America. It will cost you over half (~$400) of what the SUPERIOR Nissan Motorsports oil cooler runs.

21305-JK21A oil cooler assy, water
21313-7S01A oil filter stud
21306-JK21D water hose off sandwich plate
21306-JK21B water hose off sandwich plate (little U)
081A6-6121A x2 water pipe bolt
14053-JK20B water pipe front
21306-JK20A water hose
21306-JK20C water hose
14053-JK20A water pipe out (USDM 09-11 water pipe out 14053-JK50C)
081A8-8251A x2 water pipe out bolt
081A6-6121A water pipe out bolt
21331-AD20A water pipe out gasket
21022-JK90C water inlet pipe (USDM 09-11 water inlet pipe 21022-JK00C)
13050-JA10A water inlet gasket
16439-7S01B x8 clamp

takjak2 11-12-2011 04:23 PM

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Here are pics of new piping, and the overflow is changed.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1321136509

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1321136509

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1321136509

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1321136532

UNKNOWN_370 11-12-2011 04:35 PM

So what's the verdict? Is this Nissan oil cooler better than the Setrab coolers that are sold aftermarket under different names or what? Right now I'm looking into a 25 row with thermo-blocking plate. Would this unit be better or worse?

KingZee 11-12-2011 05:05 PM

Wish I had known this was in the works before buying my 34 row

MJB 11-12-2011 05:10 PM

These new OEM water-oil cooler will probably keep oil temps down during hot climate/ stop-go driving or maybe even some spirited type driving. No way will it be up to par for any kind of track use. Since I will not be tracking my car, I think I'm going to buy this instead of an air-oil cooler.

KaienZ34 11-12-2011 05:30 PM

Aftermarket air to oil cooler better for keeping oil temps down. OEM water to oil better for stabilizing oil temps. No track use just street OEM, track use aftermarket.

MattP725 11-12-2011 09:11 PM

Hmm... interesting... waiting to see how it works out for others... my Setrab is amazing but it does take a while for it to warm up in the colder air (no block off plate). This would make oil changes easier too.

sucasa 11-12-2011 10:04 PM

Since I am not a gearhead, any one would like to chime in and discuss if this 2012 factory cooler can be retrofitted to pre-2012 Zs. If so, what is the level of difficulty involved in self-install. If at dealer or shop, ballpark cost for part+labor.

Thanks,


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