Cost of a vk56 swap

MyKindaGuise · 04-23-2013, 10:09 AM

She's so beautiful

Sh0velMan · 04-23-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Yeah it is out of the trucks but they sourced all the race components for it.
He posted once about what all he got from Nissan & what they had to custom fab and it was 50/50.

Interesting. That engine made close to 600HP in the Baja trucks, seems wild to add more power!

edub370 · 04-23-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

So why are you driving a commercially produced automobile at all?

At the very least, you should have bought something older and put a completely random drive train in it, since being "original" is the whole point, right?

I'm thinking a Subaru Brat with a D series Honda motor.

That's more your style, surely!

it sure is a comercially produced vehicle. and u can bet that if i could afford a pagani, or ferrari, or anything that i would. but i will do the best i can to make my z original. to stand out from a crowd. ls swaps have been done in every kinda rwd car i can think of. the uniqueness and "oo sh!t" factor have really worn off with that mod in rwd japanese cars.

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

She's so beautiful

but dat vk56.... daaaaayumm

Rusty · 04-23-2013, 10:17 AM

There's a solution to every problem. It all depends on how much money you want to throw at the problem. And what the end results you are looking for. For the amont spent.

theDreamer · 04-23-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Interesting. That engine made close to 600HP in the Baja trucks, seems wild to add more power!

I think it is because they wanted more TQ, but it also could have been because if they produce it they can easily fix/repair the engine if problems occur.

Sh0velMan · 04-23-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I think it is because they wanted more TQ, but it also could have been because if they produce it they can easily fix/repair the engine if problems occur.

Wouldn't surprise me if they lowered the CR and put in less exotic internals, now that you mention it.

That engine probably ran on 116 or some other fuel that's ridiculously expensive. For drifting... No reason to run on anything but 93 or at most, 100 or 105 unleaded.

IDZRVIT · 04-23-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam

This discussion is getting a little snobby lol

A true enthusiast doesn't hate on an engine "because it's everywhere". It's everywhere for a reason, and that is for being a successful V8. Yes it has outdated technology and is not JDM but to tell me it won't put a smile on your face when swapped into a Z is nonsense. The LS engines work!

The VK56 was never designed to race or go fast, it's an SUV/truck engine designed to haul and tow fat azz trucks around. If you have the extra money to convert it into a sportier engine then by all means.

Not so. The LS is the latest development in the legendary SBC which is the most successful engine ever designed and produced on the planet. Reason? Reliability, power, torque, light weight come to mind.

edub370 · 04-23-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

Not so. The LS is the latest development in the legendary SBC which is the most successful engine ever designed and produced on the planet. Reason? Reliability, power, torque, light weight come to mind.

Chevy one of the few companies keeping pushrod tech around. its a dying tech. i agree it makes great power for the mods, and they really have no reason to go to anything else. but u really cant call it modern by any stretch

Sh0velMan · 04-23-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370

Chevy one of the few companies keeping pushrod tech around. its a dying tech. i agree it makes great power for the mods, and they really have no reason to go to anything else. but u really cant call it modern by any stretch

Chrysler/Dodge, too.

For V8 packaging for most workloads, it's pretty hard to beat with more modern design layouts.

The current line of LSx motors have about as much in common with the SBC engine of olde as the 370Z does with the 240Z.

IDZRVIT · 04-23-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370

Chevy one of the few companies keeping pushrod tech around. its a dying tech. i agree it makes great power for the mods, and they really have no reason to go to anything else. but u really cant call it modern by any stretch

Can't improve upon perfection! Just kidding but it is a reliable platform and the new LS has very little in common with the Gen I SBC like Sh0velMan pointed out.

1slow370 · 04-25-2013, 10:39 PM

but the new ls has everything in common with a '65 block 350chev with a phone call to summit. there are no advances they took an old motor and put new parts in it. so the bolt patterns changed and the manifold is different everyting else is stndard berfomance v8 stuff. they just started putting better parts in it. go out buy a one piece rear main 350, get a lightweight rotating assembley out of the catalog with a set of raised port race heads and a big cam and bam 1975 ls1 eater. ihad a buddy with and 83 camaro and 450whp 78 sbc in it he built for $4500, so the real question here is why would you go to a junkyard and buy 6000 ls3 when you could call summit, start with a 4bolt block, and for 2000 less have fresh built 400+ hp mill? Ls's are old tech with a fresh paintjob, i've owned firebirds before been there done that. and ls parts aren't cheap either if you want a real improvement, fast lsx manifold 1400, race forged rotating assembley 4500, racevalvtrain cams and heads 3500, junkyard ls1 block and machining for new parts 2500, yes you can have north of 500 n/a with a 7500rpm redline but for 12k.

1slow370 · 04-25-2013, 10:41 PM

20 bucks to the first guy to put a '75-'83 mouse in his 2009 nissan.

Must have msd distributor, holley 750 dbl pumper, cable speedo, diaphragm fuel pump, and highrise intake

Brodix or trick flow heads and a lunatti cam and z28 badges wioll get you another 20.

Rusty · 04-26-2013, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

20 bucks to the first guy to put a '75-'83 mouse in his 2009 nissan.

Must have msd distributor, holley 750 dbl pumper, cable speedo, diaphragm fuel pump, and highrise intake

Brodix or trick flow heads and a lunatti cam and z28 badges wioll get you another 20.

I know of one engine builder who calls the small block cheby, "an aftermarket motor". You can buy everything needed to build it, and not use one piece made by cheby.

G37Sam · 04-26-2013, 10:01 AM

Are we still on the Z forums?

IDZRVIT · 04-26-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I know of one engine builder who calls the small block cheby, "an aftermarket motor". You can buy everything needed to build it, and not use one piece made by cheby.

Or build one with not one offshore part unlike our Z.

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1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	but the new ls has everything in common with a '65 block 350chev with a phone call to summit. there are no advances they took an old motor and put new parts in it. so the bolt patterns changed and the manifold is different everyting else is stndard berfomance v8 stuff. they just started putting better parts in it. go out buy a one piece rear main 350, get a lightweight rotating assembley out of the catalog with a set of raised port race heads and a big cam and bam 1975 ls1 eater. ihad a buddy with and 83 camaro and 450whp 78 sbc in it he built for $4500, so the real question here is why would you go to a junkyard and buy 6000 ls3 when you could call summit, start with a 4bolt block, and for 2000 less have fresh built 400+ hp mill? Ls's are old tech with a fresh paintjob, i've owned firebirds before been there done that. and ls parts aren't cheap either if you want a real improvement, fast lsx manifold 1400, race forged rotating assembley 4500, racevalvtrain cams and heads 3500, junkyard ls1 block and machining for new parts 2500, yes you can have north of 500 n/a with a 7500rpm redline but for 12k. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	20 bucks to the first guy to put a '75-'83 mouse in his 2009 nissan. Must have msd distributor, holley 750 dbl pumper, cable speedo, diaphragm fuel pump, and highrise intake Brodix or trick flow heads and a lunatti cam and z28 badges wioll get you another 20. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 04-25-2013 at 10:51 PM.

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