Cost of a vk56 swap

theDreamer · 08-17-2012, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beejis60

You ARE aware that every NASCAR motor is based on the LS2 block, right? Therefore an OHC V8 is not used.
And yes I know this thread is old and yes I know I'm new here, but I felt compelled to bump with this proper information.

Yes, but we are talking about the VK56 engine into a Z so that is completely different animal and fitment.
Now old thread, but there are 2 known builds with the Nissan V8.
Chris Forsberg: Hard C.O.R.R. - This Z Keeps Its V8 Power In The Family * | DSPORT Magazine #110
MCA 370z drift car: The new MCA 370Z ‘Drift Monster’ build! | MCA Suspension's Blog

Beejis60 · 08-17-2012, 01:59 PM

Ya, I've seen them. This thread was the reason I joined because I was contemplating to help a friend undertake this project.

cossie1600 · 08-17-2012, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beejis60

You ARE aware that every NASCAR motor is based on the LS2 block, right? Therefore an OHC V8 is not used.
And yes I know this thread is old and yes I know I'm new here, but I felt compelled to bump with this proper information.

If you are going to revive a dead thread, you better get your info straight. The current Sprint Cup motors is based on the R07, which is a new motor designed strictly for racing. It shares nothing with the LS motor except for the traditional two valve/pushrod design. The lower end NASCAR series do use the LS2 block, but they make 500-600HP not 800HP @ 9000RPM like the big boys

Beejis60 · 08-17-2012, 02:28 PM

Allow me to retort. I believe R07 is just GM's name for their motor; now just arguing semantics... Or perhaps my info is dated then? I don't follow nascar, but either way, it is not an OHC design which is what I was trying to get at. Is that better for you?

cossie1600 · 08-17-2012, 02:48 PM

I am just saying if you are going to bring an old thread up, you might want to check your facts. There are similarities between the LS and R07, but it isn't like you can swap parts back and forth between the two. Think VQ vs VK.

NASCAR uses OHV because that is a RULE in their series. Toyota doesn't have any OHV motors, they had to build one from the ground up in order to compete. Heck, they just got EFI recently. It's one of the reason why BMW and Nissan chose not to compete in NASCAR even though there is a huge marketing opportunity available.

1slow370 · 08-24-2012, 03:12 AM

Hey come on its not dead im still looking for a motor. Anybody find one for 1000 cash shipped let me know.

Edit: or a 1000 card shipped looking to buy cheap and build.

CSA0890 · 08-30-2012, 09:17 PM

I was quoted 1500 at a local salvage yard a few months ago including all accessories and the harness and ecu.

1slow370 · 08-31-2012, 03:20 AM

so 2000 shipped up here thats my problem trying to find one locally for cheap that i can just go pick up hell id take it out if i had to. I want to do it super cheap so i can show it can be done. I have access to CNC machines and can make whatever parts I feel like such as flanges and billet swap engine mounts, and can handle the rewiring by myself so i save most of it there, but every penny counts. by building my own ms3x ecu i'm only spending about 600 for the fuel and ignition components and all this leaves money on the table for pistons,rods,studs,gaskets, and maybe a turbo or two.

1slow370 · 09-26-2012, 05:35 AM

fixed a PS3 for a salesman at the local yard and hes hooking me up with an $800 discount on a motor now that's how i do things. 06 vk 60,000 miles compression and oil pressure tested pics when i pick it up in a few weeks.

Shamu · 09-27-2012, 12:57 AM

What does vk56 weigh? What is size compared to LS? I like idea of Nissan V8. LS powered cars are a dime a dozen. Well done vk56 is much more appealing to me. Looks like that motor sits nice and low in the chassis!

1slow370 · 09-27-2012, 03:41 AM

it somethin like 45lbs more than the v6 in factory trim. wider at the heads than an ls and a bit taller the intake manifold is a lot taller but not more than the truck ls.

1slow370 · 10-09-2012, 02:54 PM

progress made

Jordo! · 10-09-2012, 03:04 PM

Holy sh!t! So this project is on? Awesome!

1slow370 · 10-15-2012, 10:49 PM

Yeah giving my self a year and a half for the whole project. budget has 4300 remaining after motor. Plan is itb's, megasquirt, adapter plate and flywheel, coated piston tops, thicker mls headgasket, motor refresh, and a single turbo setup, engine mounts and accesory brakeckets too. lots of stuff to do.

Nissanboy · 10-15-2012, 11:03 PM

Not sure if this has been posted already, but just in case it hasn't
370Z Drift Monster – In House Custom Work | MCA Suspension's Blog
Bit harder than you might think...

08-24-2012, 03:12 AM	#66 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Hey come on its not dead im still looking for a motor. Anybody find one for 1000 cash shipped let me know. Edit: or a 1000 card shipped looking to buy cheap and build. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

08-31-2012, 03:20 AM	#68 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	so 2000 shipped up here thats my problem trying to find one locally for cheap that i can just go pick up hell id take it out if i had to. I want to do it super cheap so i can show it can be done. I have access to CNC machines and can make whatever parts I feel like such as flanges and billet swap engine mounts, and can handle the rewiring by myself so i save most of it there, but every penny counts. by building my own ms3x ecu i'm only spending about 600 for the fuel and ignition components and all this leaves money on the table for pistons,rods,studs,gaskets, and maybe a turbo or two. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-26-2012, 05:35 AM	#69 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	fixed a PS3 for a salesman at the local yard and hes hooking me up with an $800 discount on a motor now that's how i do things. 06 vk 60,000 miles compression and oil pressure tested pics when i pick it up in a few weeks. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-27-2012, 12:57 AM	#70 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 19	What does vk56 weigh? What is size compared to LS? I like idea of Nissan V8. LS powered cars are a dime a dozen. Well done vk56 is much more appealing to me. Looks like that motor sits nice and low in the chassis! __________________ Grant

09-27-2012, 03:41 AM	#71 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	it somethin like 45lbs more than the v6 in factory trim. wider at the heads than an ls and a bit taller the intake manifold is a lot taller but not more than the truck ls. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

08-17-2012, 01:59 PM	#62 (permalink)
Beejis60 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NY Posts: 3 Drives: heap o shyt Rep Power: 13	Ya, I've seen them. This thread was the reason I joined because I was contemplating to help a friend undertake this project.

08-17-2012, 02:28 PM	#64 (permalink)
Beejis60 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NY Posts: 3 Drives: heap o shyt Rep Power: 13	Allow me to retort. I believe R07 is just GM's name for their motor; now just arguing semantics... Or perhaps my info is dated then? I don't follow nascar, but either way, it is not an OHC design which is what I was trying to get at. Is that better for you?

08-17-2012, 02:48 PM	#65 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	I am just saying if you are going to bring an old thread up, you might want to check your facts. There are similarities between the LS and R07, but it isn't like you can swap parts back and forth between the two. Think VQ vs VK. NASCAR uses OHV because that is a RULE in their series. Toyota doesn't have any OHV motors, they had to build one from the ground up in order to compete. Heck, they just got EFI recently. It's one of the reason why BMW and Nissan chose not to compete in NASCAR even though there is a huge marketing opportunity available.

08-30-2012, 09:17 PM	#67 (permalink)
CSA0890 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 174 Drives: 2011 Tour/Spt 7AT Rep Power: 14	I was quoted 1500 at a local salvage yard a few months ago including all accessories and the harness and ecu.

10-09-2012, 02:54 PM	#72 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	progress made Dembflyr, cruzmisl, O&G and 1 others like this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

10-09-2012, 03:04 PM	#73 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Holy sh!t! So this project is on? Awesome! __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

10-15-2012, 10:49 PM	#74 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Yeah giving my self a year and a half for the whole project. budget has 4300 remaining after motor. Plan is itb's, megasquirt, adapter plate and flywheel, coated piston tops, thicker mls headgasket, motor refresh, and a single turbo setup, engine mounts and accesory brakeckets too. lots of stuff to do. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

10-15-2012, 11:03 PM	#75 (permalink)
Nissanboy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: H-Town Posts: 378 Drives: Too slow Rep Power: 14	Not sure if this has been posted already, but just in case it hasn't 370Z Drift Monster – In House Custom Work \| MCA Suspension's Blog Bit harder than you might think...

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