Cost of a vk56 swap

1slow370 · 04-26-2013, 04:03 PM

thats beauty of the titan motor made in Tennessee unlike the mexi-canadian ls's (except the corvette ones)

1slow370 · 04-27-2013, 08:44 PM

As a side note the new Mclaren MP4-12C's engine is a modified VRH35 nissan v8, destroked VH41, with different timing chain setup.

IDZRVIT · 04-28-2013, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

thats beauty of the titan motor made in Tennessee unlike the mexi-canadian ls's (except the corvette ones)

Didn't know that. I stand corrected.

O&G · 04-29-2013, 01:27 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=X3tatfV3wdY

vk56 luv!

1slow370 · 05-01-2013, 08:51 PM

There's a good example between the different sounding v8's. Forsbergegs car has a vk, and the k-sport car has a supercharged ls3

CSA0890 · 05-01-2013, 10:03 PM

I would love to do a VK56 swap. I just hate the idea of having EVERYTHING custom made. If it breaks there is going to be a long lead time on most parts. With a LSx at least if I break it I can have the same part ordered that night and installed by the weekend.
And really if we are being honest how common is a LSx swap EVER going to be? How many 350Zs have motor swaps of any kind? Probably <1%.
I absolutely applaud your efforts but I definitely want a little more support from the aftermarket.

theDreamer · 05-02-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CSA0890

I would love to do a VK56 swap. I just hate the idea of having EVERYTHING custom made. If it breaks there is going to be a long lead time on most parts. With a LSx at least if I break it I can have the same part ordered that night and installed by the weekend.
And really if we are being honest how common is a LSx swap EVER going to be? How many 350Zs have motor swaps of any kind? Probably <1%.
I absolutely applaud your efforts but I definitely want a little more support from the aftermarket.

I don't think it is people are saying there are hundreds of 350z with LSx motors running around. It is all cars just go to a LSx before thinking of trying something else first.
I agree that the LSx motors have a huge aftermarket community and can easily be repaired or upgraded if needed, but what exactly would you be worried about breaking?

Sh0velMan · 05-02-2013, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I don't think it is people are saying there are hundreds of 350z with LSx motors running around. It is all cars just go to a LSx before thinking of trying something else first.
I agree that the LSx motors have a huge aftermarket community and can easily be repaired or upgraded if needed, but what exactly would you be worried about breaking?

That's a valid question.

For me, the motivation would be aftermarket support and the ability to get stuff like belts, bearings, seals and other "consumables" easily from any parts store rather than it being an almost strictly "dealer parts counter" affair. There also seems to be an upgraded or 'Race' version of just about every component on the LSx, that isn't the case at all on the VK. Anything motorsport/power/durability oriented beyond basic bolt ons is almost entirely specialty one-off stuff.

As a DD car or a "midly modded" engine (meaning intake, exhaust, tune) to drop into the Z, it's a great choice and will no doubt last a long time.

For those of us doing this on a track or race car, it's all about priorities, so Weight, Reliability and ease of access to upgraded and replacement parts are what matters. Even if it's a "boring" choice from an originality standpoint.

theDreamer · 05-02-2013, 08:40 AM

That is true, I would be curious to see how the support is on the VK motors, might have to visit a Titan forum or something.
It could be a lot better than many think, nowhere near the level of the LS series, but might be good enough to warrant shoving the motor in. Also, from what has been said on the forum by GTM, they are coming out with a VK swap for the Z so parts support might increase with their jumping into this area.

CSA0890 · 05-03-2013, 11:43 AM

What would I be worried about breaking? Anything. Its the same as any other engine really. If I would leave it stock or close to it I wouldnt be concerned but pushing 700+ hp out of it I would like to be able to get a spare everything.
I had thought about the VK before and even priced some rods. If I remember right they were 250 apiece since they had to be custom made and the lead time was 6 weeks

CSA0890 · 05-03-2013, 02:09 PM

I just talked with Todd@ Fueled Racing. They are building an LSx swap kit. They need a couple of donor cars. He said they would get the kit installed for free if they helped out. I cant send mine so I thought I would share.

G37Sam · 05-03-2013, 02:49 PM

Tell them to sign up on the forum and post up! This should be interesting.

CSA0890 · 05-03-2013, 03:32 PM

I did. They said if the car they are looking at buying at an auction doesnt come through they will. It would be awesome if they do. It will probably force Sikky to start on theirs. I know they said they werent planning on it for a few years.

1slow370 · 06-18-2013, 10:37 PM

things have happened i'm no working late nights to pay for stuff. End up picking up an os giken twin plate for the clutch, getting the spacing ring gear and trigger set up for that. Now saving for things like ecu and motor build, and mah big azz supercharger.

Nissanboy · 09-18-2013, 06:39 PM

Any updates?

04-26-2013, 04:03 PM	#136 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	thats beauty of the titan motor made in Tennessee unlike the mexi-canadian ls's (except the corvette ones) __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

04-27-2013, 08:44 PM	#137 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	As a side note the new Mclaren MP4-12C's engine is a modified VRH35 nissan v8, destroked VH41, with different timing chain setup. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

04-29-2013, 01:27 PM	#139 (permalink)
O&G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lone Star State Age: 42 Posts: 1,212 Drives: 40th Anv. Rep Power: 23	https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=X3tatfV3wdY vk56 luv! __________________ O&G's Build/Journal <---(1st lowmount single turbo treeseventy) Built Engine Thread 2011 F-250 Build/Journal

05-01-2013, 08:51 PM	#140 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	There's a good example between the different sounding v8's. Forsbergegs car has a vk, and the k-sport car has a supercharged ls3 __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

05-02-2013, 08:40 AM	#144 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	That is true, I would be curious to see how the support is on the VK motors, might have to visit a Titan forum or something. It could be a lot better than many think, nowhere near the level of the LS series, but might be good enough to warrant shoving the motor in. Also, from what has been said on the forum by GTM, they are coming out with a VK swap for the Z so parts support might increase with their jumping into this area. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

05-01-2013, 10:03 PM	#141 (permalink)
CSA0890 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 174 Drives: 2011 Tour/Spt 7AT Rep Power: 14	I would love to do a VK56 swap. I just hate the idea of having EVERYTHING custom made. If it breaks there is going to be a long lead time on most parts. With a LSx at least if I break it I can have the same part ordered that night and installed by the weekend. And really if we are being honest how common is a LSx swap EVER going to be? How many 350Zs have motor swaps of any kind? Probably <1%. I absolutely applaud your efforts but I definitely want a little more support from the aftermarket.

05-03-2013, 11:43 AM	#145 (permalink)
CSA0890 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 174 Drives: 2011 Tour/Spt 7AT Rep Power: 14	What would I be worried about breaking? Anything. Its the same as any other engine really. If I would leave it stock or close to it I wouldnt be concerned but pushing 700+ hp out of it I would like to be able to get a spare everything. I had thought about the VK before and even priced some rods. If I remember right they were 250 apiece since they had to be custom made and the lead time was 6 weeks

05-03-2013, 02:09 PM	#146 (permalink)
CSA0890 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 174 Drives: 2011 Tour/Spt 7AT Rep Power: 14	I just talked with Todd@ Fueled Racing. They are building an LSx swap kit. They need a couple of donor cars. He said they would get the kit installed for free if they helped out. I cant send mine so I thought I would share.

05-03-2013, 02:49 PM	#147 (permalink)
G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 20	Tell them to sign up on the forum and post up! This should be interesting. __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

05-03-2013, 03:32 PM	#148 (permalink)
CSA0890 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 174 Drives: 2011 Tour/Spt 7AT Rep Power: 14	I did. They said if the car they are looking at buying at an auction doesnt come through they will. It would be awesome if they do. It will probably force Sikky to start on theirs. I know they said they werent planning on it for a few years.

06-18-2013, 10:37 PM	#149 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	things have happened i'm no working late nights to pay for stuff. End up picking up an os giken twin plate for the clutch, getting the spacing ring gear and trigger set up for that. Now saving for things like ecu and motor build, and mah big azz supercharger. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-18-2013, 06:39 PM	#150 (permalink)
Nissanboy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: H-Town Posts: 378 Drives: Too slow Rep Power: 14	Any updates?

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