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Originally Posted by quicksilver08 Anyone ever datalogged the ECM and seen if it's in fact pulling timing as the oil temp increases or maybe there's something else causing it? I

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Old 08-10-2011, 07:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone ever datalogged the ECM and seen if it's in fact pulling timing as the oil temp increases or maybe there's something else causing it? I know on my g I can feel the car get doggier the hotter it gets but then again it's also a 108* every day so I'm sure that's not helping. Just curious.
The ECU is forced to pull timing as the engine gets hotter. My belief is that it does it in a reactionary way and isn't directly related to oil temp. Others disagree. A simple test would be to disconnect the oil temp sensor or give the ECU a false reading.
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The ECU is forced to pull timing as the engine gets hotter. My belief is that it does it in a reactionary way and isn't directly related to oil temp. Others disagree. A simple test would be to disconnect the oil temp sensor or give the ECU a false reading.
I understand that. But has anyone logged it and seen how much timing is pulled, how it's pulled (all at once, gradually, steadily increasing as rpm's rise?), and what parameters (oil temp, coolant temp, IAT, all the above?) are used to determine when/how much is pulled? Maybe I'm trying to dig to deep on such a new platform. Just thinking that if we could actually see what the ECU is doing then we could solve a lot of these questions. An oil cooler obviously works but is it solving the problem completely or is it just prolonging the inevitable? Maybe it's still pulling timing but not as severe. See what I'm getting at? Sorry for the rambling. I just like a bunch of technical info. I'm a nerd like that.
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I understand that. But has anyone logged it and seen how much timing is pulled, how it's pulled (all at once, gradually, steadily increasing as rpm's rise?), and what parameters (oil temp, coolant temp, IAT, all the above?) are used to determine when/how much is pulled? Maybe I'm trying to dig to deep on such a new platform. Just thinking that if we could actually see what the ECU is doing then we could solve a lot of these questions. An oil cooler obviously works but is it solving the problem completely or is it just prolonging the inevitable? Maybe it's still pulling timing but not as severe. See what I'm getting at? Sorry for the rambling. I just like a bunch of technical info. I'm a nerd like that.
I haven't logged it, you would have to do that with UpRev to really see in detail. I don't really care enough as like Cossie said, as long as you stay out of limp mode it doesn't make that much of a difference on track. It did feel like less timing was pulled when running the higher octane mix, but this could have been in my head.
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Oil cubes in the sump. You might be onto something there.
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