Whine/Noise/High Pitch Arg!

shoopajae10 · 03-30-2010, 04:43 PM

well i just got back from the dealership and the rep said that nissan hotline told them the 2010 models were all already fixed on production line after the incident with the 2009 models with the high pitched noise. so that slight high pitched noise should be gone right? Well to the rep, its No. he said the high pitched noise will still be there except itll be less loud. does this make any sense?

I clearly hear it, and the tech's clearly heard it. that is why they called the hot line in the first place. so obviously there is a fix for the 2009 that will eliminate this noise, but since they "already" replaced the ecu on the 2010 models, that means i have to live with it? they replaced an upgraded ecu that doesn't work? what the hell..

I just ate a whole plate of pizza rolls.

Roo · 04-06-2010, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtown82

i think you should get crap for money. you sound like some homeless bumb that will try to sue someone for looking at them the wrong way. ... your "hardships" lol. thats about the funniest thing ive read on the forums. your case wont go anywhere because you dont have a case. if nissan doesnt have a fix for it they dont have a fix for it. and your most liekly going to have a lemon looking face from pouting than anything else. and your lawyer should realize also yall have no basis for getting money from them or filing for lemon law. now if Nissan had said.. yes we know there is a problem.. and "we dont care" or "we are going to live it as is". then yes you would have a leg to stand on.

Apparently you are wrong

The surrender happens Friday

JungleB · 04-06-2010, 04:52 PM

I was planning on getting a Z, but after test driving a car with the problem and knowing that Nissan wouldn't acknowledge the issue, I decided to keep my money. The sound was so bad it hurt my ears, even for a period of an hour or more after I got out of the car. I have better things to spend my money on than a gamble on a car that the manufacturer won't back up. It still looks like Nissan and it's dealerships are giving people the run around in some cases. It's really unfortunate because the car is just awesome otherwise.

I've posted this before, but for those who want to know what it sounds like, here it is.

freesound :: view sample :: TONE 10 kHz 44.1 16bit.wav

Look for and click on the little black triangle and turn up the volume. Hurts, huh?

Roo · 04-06-2010, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleB

I was planning on getting a Z, but after test driving a car with the problem and knowing that Nissan wouldn't acknowledge the issue, I decided to keep my money. The sound was so bad it hurt my ears, even for a period of an hour or more after I got out of the car. I have better things to spend my money on than a gamble on a car that the manufacturer won't back up. It still looks like Nissan and it's dealerships are giving people the run around in some cases. It's really unfortunate because the car is just awesome otherwise.

I've posted this before, but for those who want to know what it sounds like, here it is.

freesound :: view sample :: TONE 10 kHz 44.1 16bit.wav

Look for and click on the little black triangle and turn up the volume. Hurts, huh?

Finally someone who understands just how bad it was. Nissan chose to ignore me and they paid the price. Not only did they have to refund me every dime I paid for the car but an additional $9k. I should really thank Nissan, they let me drive a car free for a year and bought me a very nice watch.

Tyrell Tyson · 04-07-2010, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo

Apparently you are wrong

The surrender happens Friday

You are the man!!!

Congratulations

Tyrell Tyson · 04-07-2010, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtown82

i think you should get crap for money. you sound like some homeless bumb that will try to sue someone for looking at them the wrong way. ... your "hardships" lol. thats about the funniest thing ive read on the forums. your case wont go anywhere because you dont have a case. if nissan doesnt have a fix for it they dont have a fix for it. and your most liekly going to have a lemon looking face from pouting than anything else. and your lawyer should realize also yall have no basis for getting money from them or filing for lemon law. now if Nissan had said.. yes we know there is a problem.. and "we dont care" or "we are going to live it as is". then yes you would have a leg to stand on.

Had to quote this again for the lulz, Jtown82 please don't have kids

marcussoori · 04-07-2010, 01:14 PM

Please vote on the poll thread just created...thanks.

j.arnaldo · 04-07-2010, 01:54 PM

bumpola...

Csquared · 04-12-2010, 08:59 PM

My cars in to have the ECU changed wish me luck! Will update when i get it back.

370Zsteve · 04-12-2010, 09:03 PM

Why doesn't my 2009 (built Nov 2008) have this noise? I feel so left out.

Csquared · 04-12-2010, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Why doesn't my 2009 (built Nov 2008) have this noise? I feel so left out.

Cause the Z looks down on serial killers. esp impatient ones lol.

Csquared · 04-13-2010, 09:25 AM

Got my car back. No more noise! woot. Fingers crossed it doesn't pop up.

maniacdave · 05-20-2011, 03:23 AM

Hello, I got my Z about 7-8 months ago, model 2009 (it was a dealership showroom model, had 12 miles when new). So it's purchased with a slight discount, but comes with full warranty.

A week ago, I started to hear a high pitched whine, exactly the kind of noise sub-par capacitors often do. It's now gotten so loud that I can't drive the car anymore. I have very sensitive ears and this noise gives me a real headache, plus I hear its echo half an hour after I get out of the car. It's a BIG problem. I'm going to have to borrow a temporary car until this is fixed.

It started just recently, I have 2300 miles on it. The car finally settled, is a lot more fuel efficient than it was new, the gearbox is precise yet smoother... In short, I was beginning to be really satisfied with it. Now this fresh hell turns up!

Once the car gets warm (15mins after being cold) it starts and doesn't let off. It's present only while the engine is running. Accu on / engine off - no noise. RPMs have no effect on it. I start the engine, the noise welcomes me and drives a spike into my BRAIN.

I'm in the Czech Republic and we have a really long history of bad & unhelpful dealerships. They basically label everything OK, "nothing to fix here", move on. I'm really afraid I'll be stuck with it and will have to sell the car.

Does anybody have any solid facts, hints, technical pearls about this? How should I approach them? How can I prove this issue? I'm sure the dealer will try to deny hearing anything. Does NISSAN have some kind of a list with known issues? Does NISSAN acknowledge this at all?

THANKS!!

ValidusVentus · 06-12-2011, 10:31 PM

Im just going to add that i also have this issue in my 09 370. I mentioned it to a tech when i took it in to get some tires put on and he said he couldnt hear it, i let it drop. I mentioned it again when i took it in because of gears grinding with the clutch fully engaged when going from 6th to 5th. This time I had an app on my phone (droid) called Spectral Pro which is a spectrum analyzer and i was able to show the tech that it did exist...and even show that it was loudest under the glove box and was approximately at 11000Hz, once again they claimed they heard nothing. He insisted that "cars make noise" and basically blew me off. It gives me headaches sometimes on trips, and causes me a good amount of irritation other times. I guess I'm just going to have to be more bullheaded next time.

maniacdave · 06-13-2011, 05:06 AM

Some asshat just recently scratched the paint off my fender, so I took it in together. I told them about the noise. Luckily, the test driver heard the noise, but didn't look much enthusiastic about fixing it. They gave me the same shait they did to you. Basically, "it's not that big of a problem", etc.

I was prepared, just like you, and I bought the same spectral pro app for my android!

Seems like we think alike.

I showed it to him and that the most dB's are near the glovebox. OK, he wrote it down and said he'd let me know. There were two huge spikes as 13kHz and 15kHz. Like very high, 5x higher than ambient engine noise, and that's on a logarithmic scale!

A week later, when the paintjob was finished, he called me and said everything is fine, but none of their techs could hear the noise, not even with some audio equipment. When they asked, Nissan denied there are any issues of this kind and refused warranty ECU exchange. So I said that it's a dealbreaker for me, because I cannot drive the car with this noise, which I really can't, because it drives me crazy and after about 2hrs of driving, my head really hurts. I guess those of us who have better hearing are **** out of luck. Nevertheless, the dealership guy seemed sympathetic to my problem and said he'll try to do some more and ask other people to try to analyze it. But who knows, he may be lying.

Now I'm waiting and hoping they'll fix it. If not, I'm gonna report it two more times and after that, I believe I can request a refund under warranty. It's some kind of a law here that when you report a problem under warranty 3 times and they don't fix it, you're entitled to get your money back. But they have to acknowledge it first! I also have a lawyer who says I may have some ear damage from prolonged exposure to these freq's, so if everything fails, I'm gonna get my ears checked out and if there's the slightest drop in sensitivity in that range, I'll have more ammo.

I wish you luck with your car too! Let's hope we'll both get what we want.

04-07-2010, 01:14 PM	#67 (permalink)
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04-12-2010, 09:03 PM	#70 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	Why doesn't my 2009 (built Nov 2008) have this noise? I feel so left out. __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

05-20-2011, 03:23 AM	#73 (permalink)
maniacdave Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 10 Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z TG M6 Rep Power: 15	Help, need to get this noise fixed!! Hello, I got my Z about 7-8 months ago, model 2009 (it was a dealership showroom model, had 12 miles when new). So it's purchased with a slight discount, but comes with full warranty. A week ago, I started to hear a high pitched whine, exactly the kind of noise sub-par capacitors often do. It's now gotten so loud that I can't drive the car anymore. I have very sensitive ears and this noise gives me a real headache, plus I hear its echo half an hour after I get out of the car. It's a BIG problem. I'm going to have to borrow a temporary car until this is fixed. It started just recently, I have 2300 miles on it. The car finally settled, is a lot more fuel efficient than it was new, the gearbox is precise yet smoother... In short, I was beginning to be really satisfied with it. Now this fresh hell turns up! Once the car gets warm (15mins after being cold) it starts and doesn't let off. It's present only while the engine is running. Accu on / engine off - no noise. RPMs have no effect on it. I start the engine, the noise welcomes me and drives a spike into my BRAIN. I'm in the Czech Republic and we have a really long history of bad & unhelpful dealerships. They basically label everything OK, "nothing to fix here", move on. I'm really afraid I'll be stuck with it and will have to sell the car. Does anybody have any solid facts, hints, technical pearls about this? How should I approach them? How can I prove this issue? I'm sure the dealer will try to deny hearing anything. Does NISSAN have some kind of a list with known issues? Does NISSAN acknowledge this at all? THANKS!! Last edited by maniacdave; 05-20-2011 at 03:27 AM.

06-12-2011, 10:31 PM	#74 (permalink)
ValidusVentus Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Washington State Posts: 400 Drives: #18 Z34 Rep Power: 23	Im just going to add that i also have this issue in my 09 370. I mentioned it to a tech when i took it in to get some tires put on and he said he couldnt hear it, i let it drop. I mentioned it again when i took it in because of gears grinding with the clutch fully engaged when going from 6th to 5th. This time I had an app on my phone (droid) called Spectral Pro which is a spectrum analyzer and i was able to show the tech that it did exist...and even show that it was loudest under the glove box and was approximately at 11000Hz, once again they claimed they heard nothing. He insisted that "cars make noise" and basically blew me off. It gives me headaches sometimes on trips, and causes me a good amount of irritation other times. I guess I'm just going to have to be more bullheaded next time. Last edited by ValidusVentus; 06-13-2011 at 01:35 AM.

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03-30-2010, 04:43 PM	#61 (permalink)
shoopajae10 Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 650 Drives: A White Sports Car Rep Power: 17	well i just got back from the dealership and the rep said that nissan hotline told them the 2010 models were all already fixed on production line after the incident with the 2009 models with the high pitched noise. so that slight high pitched noise should be gone right? Well to the rep, its No. he said the high pitched noise will still be there except itll be less loud. does this make any sense? I clearly hear it, and the tech's clearly heard it. that is why they called the hot line in the first place. so obviously there is a fix for the 2009 that will eliminate this noise, but since they "already" replaced the ecu on the 2010 models, that means i have to live with it? they replaced an upgraded ecu that doesn't work? what the hell.. I just ate a whole plate of pizza rolls.

04-06-2010, 04:52 PM	#63 (permalink)
JungleB Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PA Posts: 76 Drives: 96 VW Passat GLX Rep Power: 16	I was planning on getting a Z, but after test driving a car with the problem and knowing that Nissan wouldn't acknowledge the issue, I decided to keep my money. The sound was so bad it hurt my ears, even for a period of an hour or more after I got out of the car. I have better things to spend my money on than a gamble on a car that the manufacturer won't back up. It still looks like Nissan and it's dealerships are giving people the run around in some cases. It's really unfortunate because the car is just awesome otherwise. I've posted this before, but for those who want to know what it sounds like, here it is. freesound :: view sample :: TONE 10 kHz 44.1 16bit.wav Look for and click on the little black triangle and turn up the volume. Hurts, huh?

04-07-2010, 01:54 PM	#68 (permalink)
j.arnaldo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 937 Drives: Nissan 350Z, 2004 Rep Power: 0	bumpola...

04-12-2010, 08:59 PM	#69 (permalink)
Csquared Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 302 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Y 7sp Rep Power: 15	My cars in to have the ECU changed wish me luck! Will update when i get it back.

04-13-2010, 09:25 AM	#72 (permalink)
Csquared Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 302 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Y 7sp Rep Power: 15	Got my car back. No more noise! woot. Fingers crossed it doesn't pop up.

06-13-2011, 05:06 AM	#75 (permalink)
maniacdave Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 10 Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z TG M6 Rep Power: 15	Some asshat just recently scratched the paint off my fender, so I took it in together. I told them about the noise. Luckily, the test driver heard the noise, but didn't look much enthusiastic about fixing it. They gave me the same shait they did to you. Basically, "it's not that big of a problem", etc. I was prepared, just like you, and I bought the same spectral pro app for my android! Seems like we think alike. I showed it to him and that the most dB's are near the glovebox. OK, he wrote it down and said he'd let me know. There were two huge spikes as 13kHz and 15kHz. Like very high, 5x higher than ambient engine noise, and that's on a logarithmic scale! A week later, when the paintjob was finished, he called me and said everything is fine, but none of their techs could hear the noise, not even with some audio equipment. When they asked, Nissan denied there are any issues of this kind and refused warranty ECU exchange. So I said that it's a dealbreaker for me, because I cannot drive the car with this noise, which I really can't, because it drives me crazy and after about 2hrs of driving, my head really hurts. I guess those of us who have better hearing are **** out of luck. Nevertheless, the dealership guy seemed sympathetic to my problem and said he'll try to do some more and ask other people to try to analyze it. But who knows, he may be lying. Now I'm waiting and hoping they'll fix it. If not, I'm gonna report it two more times and after that, I believe I can request a refund under warranty. It's some kind of a law here that when you report a problem under warranty 3 times and they don't fix it, you're entitled to get your money back. But they have to acknowledge it first! I also have a lawyer who says I may have some ear damage from prolonged exposure to these freq's, so if everything fails, I'm gonna get my ears checked out and if there's the slightest drop in sensitivity in that range, I'll have more ammo. I wish you luck with your car too! Let's hope we'll both get what we want.