Installed B&M 45163 short shift kit in 370Z yesterday...

travisjb · 06-05-2009, 01:23 AM

I have one installed c/o DDM, and I'd definitely recommend it if you prefer a shorter throw. You definitely feel the gears more and it has less compliance so you always know where you are at and never any second guessing about which gear you are in when you put your hand on the shifter. The trade-off is that some may describe it as to notchy.

DIGItonium · 06-05-2009, 01:24 AM

I thought in the past short shift kits for the 350Z increased the likelihood of gearbox damage. This is why I hesitate to get a short shifter. I've tried it on my friend's WRX, and got hooked! That's if the short shifter doesn't worsen the notchiness. Any of you guys switched gearbox fluid as well?

travisjb · 06-05-2009, 01:42 AM

I haven't yet, but believe maybe socal or semtex has, to good effect... will get to mine later

miguez · 06-05-2009, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

All the bugs are worked out. The shifter kicks a$$.

KillerBee, which bugs exactly, and how were they worked out?

theDreamer · 06-05-2009, 09:14 AM

Installed mine last night and so far enjoying it so much. I had an aftermarket shift knob but it sucks so I have returned to the stock shift knob, which I am enjoying more now. And yes, we did not have to destroy my stock shift knob to get it off, took a good amount of effort not to destroy it.

For those who have changed shift knobs, what have you ordered?

CBRich · 06-05-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Installed mine last night and so far enjoying it so much. I had an aftermarket shift knob but it sucks so I have returned to the stock shift knob, which I am enjoying more now. And yes, we did not have to destroy my stock shift knob to get it off, took a good amount of effort not to destroy it.

For those who have changed shift knobs, what have you ordered?

Hold the phone. DIY?

theDreamer · 06-05-2009, 10:46 AM

I followed this, DIY: B&M 45163 short shift kit in 370Z, and there are instructions (pictures are 350Z though) that come with the shifter which are about the same.

The HACK · 06-05-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I followed this, DIY: B&M 45163 short shift kit in 370Z, and there are instructions (pictures are 350Z though) that come with the shifter which are about the same.

If you guys received the shifter in the group buy, make sure to call B&M and talk to one of the service representatives and ask for the lock washers in place of the OEM flat washers when you install. Or go to a local auto hardware store and buy 3 serrated lock washers for like $.30 ea. The serrated lock washers prevent the OEM plate from loosening up and moving around, which causes the "rattle" noises that plagues 350Z shifters. Sometimes the top plate will move far enough where you'll lose the reverse lock-out.

If the B&M service reps don't know what you're talking about, ask them to speak to their VP of Engineering to clarify.

theDreamer · 06-05-2009, 11:14 AM

You referring to the plate on right in the picture? We did not use this with the B&M shifter, we just used the supplied blue plate.

miguez · 06-05-2009, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The HACK

If you guys received the shifter in the group buy, make sure to call B&M and talk to one of the service representatives and ask for the lock washers in place of the OEM flat washers when you install. Or go to a local auto hardware store and buy 3 serrated lock washers for like $.30 ea. The serrated lock washers prevent the OEM plate from loosening up and moving around, which causes the "rattle" noises that plagues 350Z shifters. Sometimes the top plate will move far enough where you'll lose the reverse lock-out.

If the B&M service reps don't know what you're talking about, ask them to speak to their VP of Engineering to clarify.

Sounds like sound advice, Hack, I'll get some lock washers.

I wonder if that's what happened to Killer Bee, making him lose the reverser lockout?

Phimosis · 06-06-2009, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguez

Sounds like sound advice, Hack, I'll get some lock washers.

I wonder if that's what happened to Killer Bee, making him lose the reverser lockout?

I haven't heard his story, but if you install the shifter like this:

you'll lose the lockout. it needs to have the stock aluminum plate over the top of the blue anodized B&M plate in order for the lockout to work. If you do it like this:

your lockout will work.

-Phim

Phimosis · 06-06-2009, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

Hold the phone. DIY?

to avoid detroying your knob, try using a towel over the knob, then grab it with a clamp or a monkey wrench, rather than using channel locks. You'll exert much less force on the knob. Then you rely on the elliptical shape of the knob to get your traction for turning it. My knob got a few scuffs, but is not ruined:

-Phim

CBRich · 06-06-2009, 11:19 AM

Now that you mention it a nice C clamp may very well be the best option to remove the knob. I'll have to try that.

theDreamer · 06-06-2009, 11:32 AM

Phim, did you use the spring at all or do you just need the aluminum bracket for the lock out? Thanks.

Phimosis · 06-06-2009, 06:16 PM

You need the spring too, otherwise it will sit too low, like you are pushing down on the shifter, trying to hit reverse.

06-05-2009, 01:23 AM	#46 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	I have one installed c/o DDM, and I'd definitely recommend it if you prefer a shorter throw. You definitely feel the gears more and it has less compliance so you always know where you are at and never any second guessing about which gear you are in when you put your hand on the shifter. The trade-off is that some may describe it as to notchy. __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

06-05-2009, 01:24 AM	#47 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	I thought in the past short shift kits for the 350Z increased the likelihood of gearbox damage. This is why I hesitate to get a short shifter. I've tried it on my friend's WRX, and got hooked! That's if the short shifter doesn't worsen the notchiness. Any of you guys switched gearbox fluid as well? __________________

06-05-2009, 01:42 AM	#48 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	I haven't yet, but believe maybe socal or semtex has, to good effect... will get to mine later __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

06-05-2009, 09:14 AM	#50 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Installed mine last night and so far enjoying it so much. I had an aftermarket shift knob but it sucks so I have returned to the stock shift knob, which I am enjoying more now. And yes, we did not have to destroy my stock shift knob to get it off, took a good amount of effort not to destroy it. For those who have changed shift knobs, what have you ordered? __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

06-05-2009, 10:46 AM	#52 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	I followed this, DIY: B&M 45163 short shift kit in 370Z, and there are instructions (pictures are 350Z though) that come with the shifter which are about the same. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

06-05-2009, 11:14 AM	#54 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	You referring to the plate on right in the picture? We did not use this with the B&M shifter, we just used the supplied blue plate. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

06-06-2009, 11:19 AM	#58 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	Now that you mention it a nice C clamp may very well be the best option to remove the knob. I'll have to try that.

06-06-2009, 11:32 AM	#59 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Phim, did you use the spring at all or do you just need the aluminum bracket for the lock out? Thanks. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

06-06-2009, 06:16 PM	#60 (permalink)
Phimosis Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oildale, CA Posts: 412 Drives: 2013 911 4S Rep Power: 416	You need the spring too, otherwise it will sit too low, like you are pushing down on the shifter, trying to hit reverse.

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