What's with the low oil?

cossie1600 · 07-31-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by redline727

If it's the VVEL what would replacing the short block do to fix it?

I was talking about the high oil temp. Modern cars run oil above 200F a lot of times, I don't think most people need to worry about it.

Rooskey · 08-09-2011, 11:37 PM

Nissan does not send out a TSB to anyone!! If they can not produce an engine that last over 200k miles they should sell all its stock to mexico or toyota. THINK?? I just bought my wife a new nissan (Im sure she will check the oil on a weekly basis??). I'll change the oil every 4 to 5k with a good synthetic. Wrong? As far as this engine and oil consumption it is an epic fail and no one can justify it. Period...... WTF why do we have an oil temp guage and not oil pressure..

onzedge · 08-10-2011, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooskey

Nissan does not send out a TSB to anyone!! If they can not produce an engine that last over 200k miles they should sell all its stock to mexico or toyota. THINK?? I just bought my wife a new nissan (Im sure she will check the oil on a weekly basis??). I'll change the oil every 4 to 5k with a good synthetic. Wrong? As far as this engine and oil consumption it is an epic fail and no one can justify it. Period...... WTF why do we have an oil temp guage and not oil pressure..

No kidding...

red6spd · 08-10-2011, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooskey

Nissan does not send out a TSB to anyone!! If they can not produce an engine that last over 200k miles they should sell all its stock to mexico or toyota. THINK?? I just bought my wife a new nissan (Im sure she will check the oil on a weekly basis??). I'll change the oil every 4 to 5k with a good synthetic. Wrong? As far as this engine and oil consumption it is an epic fail and no one can justify it. Period...... WTF why do we have an oil temp guage and not oil pressure..

My Z does not suffer from oil consumption or high oil temps (before oil cooler) and I'm at 12K.

Teddy KGB · 08-27-2011, 09:25 AM

I'm sitting in the waiting room at my local stealership while my Z is getting the oil consumption test done on it (the first phase anyway). Oil changed at 2500 miles, sitting at 4000 miles and I'm around 3/4 of a quart low. The car's been fairly babied since birth.

Well see what happens...

onzedge · 08-27-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Teddy KGB

I'm sitting in the waiting room at my local stealership while my Z is getting the oil consumption test done on it (the first phase anyway). Oil changed at 2500 miles, sitting at 4000 miles and I'm around 3/4 of a quart low. The car's been fairly babied since birth.

Well see what happens...

Let us know how it turns out.

mrmonopolis · 08-28-2011, 08:55 AM

How did the test go?

SPOHN · 08-27-2011, 10:48 AM

Of all these I have read about what has been the actual cause for this? Piston rings or what?

onzedge · 08-27-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

Of all these I have read about what has been the actual cause for this? Piston rings or what?

Rings.

Teddy KGB · 08-28-2011, 02:42 PM

"We agree that you are burning some oil, and started documenting your oil level. Bring it back in 1500 miles and we'll check it again. There's a couple more steps in the process, but you may need engine work. There was a slight amount of associated engine noise as well. Drive it normally and check the level." -Service Writer at the dealer

I asked them, (just in case), if they had rebuilt a 370 yet. "So far, only one" was the answer.

I'm a little more than pissed about this. I rarely rag on my car...upper revs every once in a while. IT'S A ******* SPORTS CAR THOUGH!! Why should I have to worry about how much I baby it. Hell, my Maxima has been beaten on for 12 years and 150,000 miles and not one single problem (God bless the VQ30DE).

Mostly, I'm worried about the engine rebuild if needed. I'd rather the thing was built completely in Japan and sent over instead of using a mix of new and old parts. It'll never be the same. I'd almost rather they sent me the money for a new build, and I'll replace everything including a new GTM TT setup and forged internals. Might as well, right? (End rant)

To be continued in a few months...I guess.

onzedge · 08-28-2011, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teddy KGB

"We agree that you are burning some oil, and started documenting your oil level. Bring it back in 1500 miles and we'll check it again. There's a couple more steps in the process, but you may need engine work. There was a slight amount of associated engine noise as well. Drive it normally and check the level." -Service Writer at the dealer

I asked them, (just in case), if they had rebuilt a 370 yet. "So far, only one" was the answer.

I'm a little more than pissed about this. I rarely rag on my car...upper revs every once in a while. IT'S A ******* SPORTS CAR THOUGH!! Why should I have to worry about how much I baby it. Hell, my Maxima has been beaten on for 12 years and 150,000 miles and not one single problem (God bless the VQ30DE).

Mostly, I'm worried about the engine rebuild if needed. I'd rather the thing was built completely in Japan and sent over instead of using a mix of new and old parts. It'll never be the same. I'd almost rather they sent me the money for a new build, and I'll replace everything including a new GTM TT setup and forged internals. Might as well, right? (End rant)

To be continued in a few months...I guess.

If you fail the consumption test you get a new short block, not rebuilt. This is in accordance with the TSB on oil consumption. FYI.

Teddy KGB · 08-30-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

If you fail the consumption test you get a new short block, not rebuilt. This is in accordance with the TSB on oil consumption. FYI.

Thanks onzedge, I had read that. That still uses all of my manifolds and everything above the head gasket, (not a big deal I suppose). I'm just not very enthusiastic about any dramatic engine work on my car.

I just drove 450 miles on a weekend trip to the mountains though, and the oil level is still stuck on high. Maybe there's still hope.

mrmonopolis · 11-29-2011, 12:36 AM

mrmonopolis · 07-03-2012, 05:29 PM

Yeah to comicdust73, sounds like you may have some engine damage there. If the dealer has to replace the short block all of it should be covered by the warranty. You may have to provide proof (receipts) that the car has been being maintenance properly since you purchased the car. Other than that you should be in the clear. Sorry to hear about the trouble I've been there.

cosmicdust73 · 07-05-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmonopolis

Yeah to comicdust73, sounds like you may have some engine damage there. If the dealer has to replace the short block all of it should be covered by the warranty. You may have to provide proof (receipts) that the car has been being maintenance properly since you purchased the car. Other than that you should be in the clear. Sorry to hear about the trouble I've been there.

Thanks... at this point I just want a working car! Even if they fix the short-term issue... I'll still need to bring it back to verify whether or not it's consuming oil. Last time I saw the car a couple days back... it looked like half the engine was pulled out in order to replace the sprocket. I may hear back today whether or not this fixes the immediate problem. The main worry for me is that once you start ripping things apart and putting them back together... the car will be nothing but a headache from here on out.

08-27-2011, 10:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
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08-09-2011, 11:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rooskey Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: South Carolina Posts: 974 Drives: 2014 Alpha7 GTR Rep Power: 16	Nissan does not send out a TSB to anyone!! If they can not produce an engine that last over 200k miles they should sell all its stock to mexico or toyota. THINK?? I just bought my wife a new nissan (Im sure she will check the oil on a weekly basis??). I'll change the oil every 4 to 5k with a good synthetic. Wrong? As far as this engine and oil consumption it is an epic fail and no one can justify it. Period...... WTF why do we have an oil temp guage and not oil pressure..

08-27-2011, 09:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
Teddy KGB Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 79 Drives: 40th Z, Tundra, CBR6 Rep Power: 15	I'm sitting in the waiting room at my local stealership while my Z is getting the oil consumption test done on it (the first phase anyway). Oil changed at 2500 miles, sitting at 4000 miles and I'm around 3/4 of a quart low. The car's been fairly babied since birth. Well see what happens...

08-28-2011, 08:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
mrmonopolis Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Washington DC Posts: 13 Drives: 370Z 09 Silver Rep Power: 14	How did the test go?

08-28-2011, 02:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
Teddy KGB Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 79 Drives: 40th Z, Tundra, CBR6 Rep Power: 15	"We agree that you are burning some oil, and started documenting your oil level. Bring it back in 1500 miles and we'll check it again. There's a couple more steps in the process, but you may need engine work. There was a slight amount of associated engine noise as well. Drive it normally and check the level." -Service Writer at the dealer I asked them, (just in case), if they had rebuilt a 370 yet. "So far, only one" was the answer. I'm a little more than pissed about this. I rarely rag on my car...upper revs every once in a while. IT'S A ******* SPORTS CAR THOUGH!! Why should I have to worry about how much I baby it. Hell, my Maxima has been beaten on for 12 years and 150,000 miles and not one single problem (God bless the VQ30DE). Mostly, I'm worried about the engine rebuild if needed. I'd rather the thing was built completely in Japan and sent over instead of using a mix of new and old parts. It'll never be the same. I'd almost rather they sent me the money for a new build, and I'll replace everything including a new GTM TT setup and forged internals. Might as well, right? (End rant) To be continued in a few months...I guess.

07-03-2012, 05:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
mrmonopolis Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Washington DC Posts: 13 Drives: 370Z 09 Silver Rep Power: 14	Yeah to comicdust73, sounds like you may have some engine damage there. If the dealer has to replace the short block all of it should be covered by the warranty. You may have to provide proof (receipts) that the car has been being maintenance properly since you purchased the car. Other than that you should be in the clear. Sorry to hear about the trouble I've been there.