What's with the low oil?

V8Killer · 07-26-2011, 01:03 AM

When checking oil what temp do u do it? Do u check oil hot or cold or both?

onzedge · 07-26-2011, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Now what happens if you do the oil changes yourself?!?!?!? Nissan won't honor it? That's dumb and BS. Nissan better honor the warranty. I mean I can save my old filter and old oil if that's what they need. Or do they want to see a receipt of the oil / filter purchases from walmart??? lol

You should keep your receipts for everything you buy for the car -- maintenance and modification parts/supplies alike. You should also have a log book in which you write everything you do to the vehicle -- what, when, mileage, etc.

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Originally Posted by V8Killer

When checking oil what temp do u do it? Do u check oil hot or cold or both?

Always check oil level when the engine has been sitting for a while. If you have an oil cooler, wait longer because it can take soem time for all of the oil to drain into the pan. Always check your oil at the same time of day/condition. To make it simple and consistent, I check oil levels in the morning, after the car has been siiting over night and before I start the engine.

FromG2Z · 07-26-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

You should keep your receipts for everything you buy for the car -- maintenance and modification parts/supplies alike. You should also have a log book in which you write everything you do to the vehicle -- what, when, mileage, etc.

I will do that now for sure. I figured for oil and oil filters though, I didn't need to keep my walmart/autozone, etc receipts. But I guess I will now. I don't think I have my Wix filter receipts anymore, nor my Invidia exhaust receipt... lol. I guess if they just SEE it there, that's proof enough.

As for the log book, yes, I have that log book in the glove box. I note all the gas, mileage, oil changes, mods, everything... date, and miles done.

mrmonopolis · 09-19-2011, 11:36 AM

First of all I would like to say this forum rocks! I originally thought this would be such a waste of my time and it has been the absolute opposite. So I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone who has posted or contributed any information or opinions to is thread. Also, special thanks to ONZEDGE (your a beast).I'll be updating this post on last time after I am finished with this process which should be very soon no later than next week. I will say this now though. Please everyone (make sure to document your maintenance activity thoroughly). I just wanted to let you all know that I am still working this situation out with Nissan and the results should be coming soon. I sincerely appreciate the feedback and information

Monopolis-

onzedge · 09-19-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmonopolis

First of all I would like to say this forum rocks! I originally thought this would be such a waste of my time and it has been the absolute opposite. So I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone who has posted or contributed any information or opinions to is thread. Also, special thanks to ONZEDGE (your a beast).I'll be updating this post on last time after I am finished with this process which should be very soon no later than next week. I will say this now though. Please everyone (make sure to document your maintenance activity thoroughly). I just wanted to let you all know that I am still working this situation out with Nissan and the results should be coming soon. I sincerely appreciate the feedback and information

Monopolis-

cosmicdust73 · 07-02-2012, 07:04 PM

My 2009 370z is at the dealer as we speak for what could end up being engine damage due to the oil consumption issue. I change my car's oil religiously using synthetic. Most I've ever gone before a change is around 5k on synthetic oil. Anyways, the other day the car just cut out when accelerating from a light. It didn't stall... but it bucked like a sonofabi*ch! Felt like the gears were screwed up or something because it forced me down to what felt like 20mph or so. Managed to get the car to the dealer. They noticed the oil was low which was a complete surprise to me. They thought it was a timing valve at first but that was not the problem. Now they're replacing a sprocket? If that doesn't solve it, it sounds like the car may require some big time engine work. I showed the dealer the TSB and my car is still under powertrain warranty... but I have to say this is a complete surprise for a car that has otherwise given me no issues whatsoever!

fighterinsnat · 07-02-2012, 08:59 PM

Hmmmm this sounds so familiar..........

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

redline727 · 07-30-2011, 08:15 PM

Ok so I'm a first time Z owner only had mine for a little over a month got it used with 10k on it and just learning about the consumption and temp oil issues. Maybe I am freaking out a little bit bc my last car was an S2000 and drove it hard everyday shifting at 8k on a regular basis bc that's what the motor was designed to do and would never 2nd guess the quality of the F22C1. So I'm confused why people take this matter so lightly. High oil temps and consumption simply should not happen especially when people are just daily driving. There's no excuse IMOP. I've read multiple threads where people are saying Nissan is giving them crap about fixing it! Also the TSB narrows it down to certain dates, to me that means Nissan recognized an issue an fixed it for 2011 right? So what was the cause of the consumption and what was changed in the short block that no longer causes consumption? These are questions I have and won't even dare ask the dealership bc I also read many people reporting their dealer not even aware of the TSB. So anybody go through getting their short block replaced and receive a logical answer from their dealer? I don't know but if You make a car with 332hp shift at 7400rpm and have the first rev matching 6MT something tells me you should be able to drive the car hard without thinking, oh maybe i should check my oil every morning bc i may have lost some even though i change my oil every 3k. Sorry for my rant I just don't think we should have these worries. Now I'm going to check my oil and pray I don't have this problem.

red6spd · 07-30-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by redline727

Ok so I'm a first time Z owner only had mine for a little over a month got it used with 10k on it and just learning about the consumption and temp oil issues. Maybe I am freaking out a little bit bc my last car was an S2000 and drove it hard everyday shifting at 8k on a regular basis bc that's what the motor was designed to do and would never 2nd guess the quality of the F22C1. So I'm confused why people take this matter so lightly. High oil temps and consumption simply should not happen especially when people are just daily driving. There's no excuse IMOP. I've read multiple threads where people are saying Nissan is giving them crap about fixing it! Also the TSB narrows it down to certain dates, to me that means Nissan recognized an issue an fixed it for 2011 right? So what was the cause of the consumption and what was changed in the short block that no longer causes consumption? These are questions I have and won't even dare ask the dealership bc I also read many people reporting their dealer not even aware of the TSB. So anybody go through getting their short block replaced and receive a logical answer from their dealer? I don't know but if You make a car with 332hp shift at 7400rpm and have the first rev matching 6MT something tells me you should be able to drive the car hard without thinking, oh maybe i should check my oil every morning bc i may have lost some even though i change my oil every 3k. Sorry for my rant I just don't think we should have these worries. Now I'm going to check my oil and pray I don't have this problem.

Not everyone who has a Z that fell into the TSB build period has been affected. I'm one (Knock on wood) Also most of the high oil temps people are talking about are not hitting limp mode. Who knows how high the oil temps got in your S2K, since that little gauge is there people tend to get more paranoid. Every car has its problem, I'm sure the S2K was not perfect.

redline727 · 07-30-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Not everyone who has a Z that fell into the TSB build period has been affected. I'm one (Knock on wood) Also most of the high oil temps people are talking about are not hitting limp mode. Who knows how high the oil temps got in your S2K, since that little gauge is there people tend to get more paranoid. Every car has its problem, I'm sure the S2K was not perfect.

No it wasn't perfect but most mechanical problems can be layed at the feet of the owner through modification that the car wasn't designed to handle, like blowing the rear or something from increased power and 1/4 Mile drag racing. So I can't fault Honda for that. But some people with the consumption issue are not even modified or track their car. I just have an even harder time on trying to figure out the reasoning on why some experience it and some don't. You would think it would be something you could pin point with a cause. Like an issue with burning oil maybe through piston rings or valve seals, head gasket, ect. Typically if you service your car properly and drive "normal" and lost oil you would look for the why? So I guess it's not so much the issue is there for some but I've read no explanation on why it's happening. Sorry im just nervous lol this just Isnt the stuff you want to see after dropping 28k on a used car haha. Plus I looked for recalls and TSB's before I got it and didn't see this one anywhere. Oh well I'll just keep my fingers crossed bc I don't even want to think about having the short block replaced I feel like the car is never the same kind of like after an accident and you get it back from the body shop it just doesn't feel right haha

mrmonopolis · 07-30-2011, 09:33 PM

I wasn't sure myself but I didn't think the 370Z should be having those kinds of problems either under regular driving conditions. I don't track my car nor have I made any mods. I've only had the car since aug 2009 and it sat still for 8 of those months. Nissan is kinda giving me a hassle about covering the repairs even though my car is under warranty.

mrmonopolis · 07-30-2011, 09:36 PM

Has anyone actually gotten Nissan to repair the short engine assembly in connection with the oil consumption TSP on the 09, 10 370z's?

sonic370 · 07-31-2011, 09:10 PM

It sounds like you have a big problem alright.
Some have had oil burning issues and high oil temps also..
imho i think has a lot to do with how the car is driven.....
if you drive it like you stole all the time and never check the oil at each fill up
your asking for trouble.....

i've had some fun with my car if you can catch my drift and have never had any
problems from day one. now sitting at 25,000 miles.

I'm not saying thats what you did. But there was one guy who drove his 370
from day one until it locked up. When he had it towed in it had one quart of
oil in it. Nissan wanted 13,000 for a new motor and he acted like it was nissan's
problem... anyway good luck i hope they replace it for you............

cossie1600 · 07-30-2011, 09:32 PM

It's the variable cams system they use

redline727 · 07-30-2011, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

It's the variable cams system they use

If it's the VVEL what would replacing the short block do to fix it?

07-26-2011, 01:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
V8Killer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Newport, NC Posts: 1,127 Drives: It Hard Till It Pops Rep Power: 17	When checking oil what temp do u do it? Do u check oil hot or cold or both? __________________ "Punch" Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous....

09-19-2011, 11:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
mrmonopolis Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Washington DC Posts: 13 Drives: 370Z 09 Silver Rep Power: 14	Results Coming soon First of all I would like to say this forum rocks! I originally thought this would be such a waste of my time and it has been the absolute opposite. So I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone who has posted or contributed any information or opinions to is thread. Also, special thanks to ONZEDGE (your a beast).I'll be updating this post on last time after I am finished with this process which should be very soon no later than next week. I will say this now though. Please everyone (make sure to document your maintenance activity thoroughly). I just wanted to let you all know that I am still working this situation out with Nissan and the results should be coming soon. I sincerely appreciate the feedback and information Monopolis-

07-02-2012, 07:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
cosmicdust73 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 45 Drives: 2013 370z Tour Sport Rep Power: 16	My 2009 370z is at the dealer as we speak for what could end up being engine damage due to the oil consumption issue. I change my car's oil religiously using synthetic. Most I've ever gone before a change is around 5k on synthetic oil. Anyways, the other day the car just cut out when accelerating from a light. It didn't stall... but it bucked like a sonofabich! Felt like the gears were screwed up or something because it forced me down to what felt like 20mph or so. Managed to get the car to the dealer. They noticed the oil was low which was a complete surprise to me. They thought it was a timing valve at first but that was not the problem. Now they're replacing a sprocket? If that doesn't solve it, it sounds like the car may require some big time engine work. I showed the dealer the TSB and my car is still under powertrain warranty... but I have to say this is a complete surprise for a car that has otherwise given me no issues whatsoever! Last edited by cosmicdust73; 07-02-2012 at 07:06 PM.*

07-30-2011, 08:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
redline727 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: RVA Posts: 203 Drives: '13 MUSTANG GT 6MT Rep Power: 14	Ok so I'm a first time Z owner only had mine for a little over a month got it used with 10k on it and just learning about the consumption and temp oil issues. Maybe I am freaking out a little bit bc my last car was an S2000 and drove it hard everyday shifting at 8k on a regular basis bc that's what the motor was designed to do and would never 2nd guess the quality of the F22C1. So I'm confused why people take this matter so lightly. High oil temps and consumption simply should not happen especially when people are just daily driving. There's no excuse IMOP. I've read multiple threads where people are saying Nissan is giving them crap about fixing it! Also the TSB narrows it down to certain dates, to me that means Nissan recognized an issue an fixed it for 2011 right? So what was the cause of the consumption and what was changed in the short block that no longer causes consumption? These are questions I have and won't even dare ask the dealership bc I also read many people reporting their dealer not even aware of the TSB. So anybody go through getting their short block replaced and receive a logical answer from their dealer? I don't know but if You make a car with 332hp shift at 7400rpm and have the first rev matching 6MT something tells me you should be able to drive the car hard without thinking, oh maybe i should check my oil every morning bc i may have lost some even though i change my oil every 3k. Sorry for my rant I just don't think we should have these worries. Now I'm going to check my oil and pray I don't have this problem. __________________ 2013 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 6MT ROUSH intake \| ROUSH axle back \| ROUSH shift knob \| ROUSH coil covers 2009 NISSAN 370Z SOLD

07-02-2012, 08:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
fighterinsnat Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: florida Posts: 49 Drives: 370z Gray Rep Power: 15	Hmmmm this sounds so familiar.......... I'm glad I'm not the only one.

07-30-2011, 09:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
mrmonopolis Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Washington DC Posts: 13 Drives: 370Z 09 Silver Rep Power: 14	I wasn't sure myself but I didn't think the 370Z should be having those kinds of problems either under regular driving conditions. I don't track my car nor have I made any mods. I've only had the car since aug 2009 and it sat still for 8 of those months. Nissan is kinda giving me a hassle about covering the repairs even though my car is under warranty.

07-30-2011, 09:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
mrmonopolis Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Washington DC Posts: 13 Drives: 370Z 09 Silver Rep Power: 14	Has anyone actually gotten Nissan to repair the short engine assembly in connection with the oil consumption TSP on the 09, 10 370z's?

07-31-2011, 09:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	It sounds like you have a big problem alright. Some have had oil burning issues and high oil temps also.. imho i think has a lot to do with how the car is driven..... if you drive it like you stole all the time and never check the oil at each fill up your asking for trouble..... i've had some fun with my car if you can catch my drift and have never had any problems from day one. now sitting at 25,000 miles. I'm not saying thats what you did. But there was one guy who drove his 370 from day one until it locked up. When he had it towed in it had one quart of oil in it. Nissan wanted 13,000 for a new motor and he acted like it was nissan's problem... anyway good luck i hope they replace it for you............

07-30-2011, 09:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	It's the variable cams system they use