High Oil Temp - Is this the SOLUTION? (NISSAN'S SUPER OIL)??

Vince's Red-Z · 05-31-2011, 09:59 PM

Living in Texas, we are now nearing summer. It has been 85+ with medium humidity. Naturally one can expect high oil temps however, I realized now, after my first oil change (done by myself) higher oil temps and faster fuel consumption. I drive about 25 miles (1 way) to work 5 days a week, all city streets. Normally, the oil gauge it would stay around 190* with spirited driving. Now, it's going at or slightly above 200+*, same job, same driving habits. I also noticed fuel goes a bit faster too (prior to summer), even driving slower due to high gas prices (I did a re-learing air/Idle). I use only Mobil1 oil, the 2nd change (5/29 @8100 mi), I again used Mobil 1, this time 10/30 extended protection and added a bottle of water wetter. The temp still goes to 200+* even in the morning (78* low humidity 5/31). I began to look at oil coolers and came across this VERY good article (link blow). All 370Z owners should read this article , mainly the part of "Nisan's SUPER OIL" (page 3 & 4 though the whole article is good) After reading this, it seemed to all fit, fuel consumption, high oil temps and it all started after first oil change, so I strongly believe. There is more than just oil Nissan created. It also goes into molecular "bearings" and why this oil is needed for the DLC (diamond hard like coating) on the pistons, cylinder walls etc... Also, it touched on chatter noise on valves and loss of hp due to friction. After reading this article, I plan on switching to NISSAN'S SUPER OIL, Nissan sells it for the same price of a good racing oil, so I'm sold. This oil was crated for the Z's engine. heat is not uncommon in hi out put engines, it touched a little on BMW and Corvette heat issues. YOU GOT TO READ THIS ARTICLE!!!
You have to copy/paste link, stupid thing wont accept a web link, prob because is another forum...? If you're having trouble, PM me, I will email the article link.

Respects~

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PapoZalsa · 05-31-2011, 10:02 PM

You are not talking about Ester Oil, right?

BTW, I went to ZdayZ 2011 put on the car 1,250 miles including the Tail of Dragon and numerous back roads. I didn't have a problem with the oil temp.

The 200 range oil temp is almost standard, if it doesn't goes over 250-260 go will be OK.

FuszNissan · 05-31-2011, 10:02 PM

So what temps are you hitting? 200+ doesn't help. If you are hitting 200-250 you are okay in that range

FuszNissan · 05-31-2011, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

You are not talking about Ester Oil, right?

please no

Vince's Red-Z · 05-31-2011, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

You are not talking about Ester Oil, right?

In part yes, this has the base of ester oil. Why do you mention this?

Vince's Red-Z · 05-31-2011, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan

So what temps are you hitting? 200+ doesn't help. If you are hitting 200-250 you are okay in that range

I am hitting between 200* - 215*

FuszNissan · 05-31-2011, 10:10 PM

Your temps are fine. I wouldn't worry until you hit 250+

PapoZalsa · 05-31-2011, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince's Red-Z

I am hitting between 200* - 215*

You are OK!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince's Red-Z

In part yes, this has the base of ester oil. Why do you mention this?

Because there are so many threads about Ester Oil in here.

Vince's Red-Z · 05-31-2011, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

You are OK!

Because there are so many threads about Ester Oil in here.

Do you use Mobil 1 or something synthetic oil?

PapoZalsa · 05-31-2011, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince's Red-Z

Do you use Mobil 1 or something synthetic oil?

So far I only have two free oil change by the dealer. They told me that they used Ester Oil, can't swear on that.

But I haven't had any oil temps problems in almost 2 yrs, I don't DD the Z.

Vince's Red-Z · 05-31-2011, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

So far I only have two free oil change by the dealer. They told me that they used Ester Oil, can't swear on that.

But I haven't had any oil temps problems in almost 2 yrs, I don't DD the Z.

Ok.., I will ask the stupid question (I'm confused)... You're recommending that I should ONLY use Ester oil? I went hunting for tags for Ester oil and it seems everyone is using it with good results.

Respects~

TreeSemdyZee · 05-31-2011, 10:40 PM

Bottom line to this whole argument. Nissan DOES NOT manufacture oil.

/thread

shaun66 · 05-31-2011, 10:46 PM

Strange I just switched to Mobil 1 and I'm feeling the opposite

(Placebo affect

)

Vince's Red-Z · 05-31-2011, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Bottom line to this whole argument. Nissan DOES NOT manufacture oil.

/thread

True. However, they know what the engine needs and their oil has it (see the article) If I'm not mistaken, it basically is ester oil with zinc and other junk formulated for the VQ37VHR.

Red__Zed · 06-01-2011, 12:06 AM

The ester oil has been shown to be crap. The engine runs 10-15 degrees hotter with it in, and UOA's don't look good at all...

05-31-2011, 09:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Vince's Red-Z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Wylie, TX Posts: 71 Drives: 2010 370Z Red Sport Rep Power: 15	High Oil Temp - Is this the SOLUTION? (NISSAN'S SUPER OIL)?? Living in Texas, we are now nearing summer. It has been 85+ with medium humidity. Naturally one can expect high oil temps however, I realized now, after my first oil change (done by myself) higher oil temps and faster fuel consumption. I drive about 25 miles (1 way) to work 5 days a week, all city streets. Normally, the oil gauge it would stay around 190* with spirited driving. Now, it's going at or slightly above 200+, same job, same driving habits. I also noticed fuel goes a bit faster too (prior to summer), even driving slower due to high gas prices (I did a re-learing air/Idle). I use only Mobil1 oil, the 2nd change (5/29 @8100 mi), I again used Mobil 1, this time 10/30 extended protection and added a bottle of water wetter. The temp still goes to 200+ even in the morning (78* low humidity 5/31). I began to look at oil coolers and came across this VERY good article (link blow). All 370Z owners should read this article , mainly the part of "Nisan's SUPER OIL" (page 3 & 4 though the whole article is good) After reading this, it seemed to all fit, fuel consumption, high oil temps and it all started after first oil change, so I strongly believe. There is more than just oil Nissan created. It also goes into molecular "bearings" and why this oil is needed for the DLC (diamond hard like coating) on the pistons, cylinder walls etc... Also, it touched on chatter noise on valves and loss of hp due to friction. After reading this article, I plan on switching to NISSAN'S SUPER OIL, Nissan sells it for the same price of a good racing oil, so I'm sold. This oil was crated for the Z's engine. heat is not uncommon in hi out put engines, it touched a little on BMW and Corvette heat issues. YOU GOT TO READ THIS ARTICLE!!! You have to copy/paste link, stupid thing wont accept a web link, prob because is another forum...? If you're having trouble, PM me, I will email the article link. Respects~ HTML Code: www.370z.com/MagazineArticles/tabid/57/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/55/Nissan-370Z-Oil-Temps-engine-rattles-300-oil-Diff-temps-and-other-issues-The-Truth.aspx __________________

05-31-2011, 10:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4500	You are not talking about Ester Oil, right? BTW, I went to ZdayZ 2011 put on the car 1,250 miles including the Tail of Dragon and numerous back roads. I didn't have a problem with the oil temp. The 200 range oil temp is almost standard, if it doesn't goes over 250-260 go will be OK. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs Last edited by PapoZalsa; 05-31-2011 at 10:09 PM.

05-31-2011, 10:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	So what temps are you hitting? 200+ doesn't help. If you are hitting 200-250 you are okay in that range __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

05-31-2011, 10:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	Your temps are fine. I wouldn't worry until you hit 250+ __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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