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Red__Zed 05-29-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1139774)
Need something with better doors than a z34, more steering feel than an s2k, and a less solid rear axle than a mustang.

Miata?

best doors running.

Red__Zed 05-29-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by detroadster (Post 1139779)
Why not? It's the truth and it illustrates an important point that anyone one who has swapped an engine can attest to: I always takes twice as long and costs twice as much as you think it should.

Spending that much time on that swap doesn't illustrate that point so much as it makes you look like you don't have a clue what you are doing.

JB-370z 05-29-2011 11:29 AM

I would not listen to anyone. Its your money, you do what will make you happy. Yeah its not a wise desicion for most, I would still like to see someone do it. That way they can post pictures and videos on youtube and we can all wish we had that kind of money to throw in the trash for a GTR motor swap. Not logical, but oh so sweet.

Red__Zed 05-29-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 1139790)
I would not listen to anyone. Its your money, you do what will make you happy. Yeah its not a wise desicion for most, I would still like to see someone do it. That way they can post pictures and videos on youtube and we can all wish we had that kind of money to throw in the trash for a GTR motor swap. Not logical, but oh so sweet.

Yeah. I would love to see it done. It would make more sense for a shop to make the swap to get attention though. We will probably see something like it once the economy picks up.

Makes me think of the guy on HT that converted his prelude to mid-engine RWD. :roflpuke2:

detroadster 05-29-2011 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1139784)
Spending that much time on that swap doesn't illustrate that point so much as it makes you look like you don't have a clue what you are doing.

Yup, you're totally right. Got my head up my ***, sorry I tried to help the guy understand that engine swaps are complex, costly, time consuming, and there may be better options for him.

Red__Zed 05-29-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by detroadster (Post 1139802)
Yup, you're totally right. Got my head up my ***, sorry I tried to help the guy understand that engine swaps are complex, costly, time consuming, and there may be better options for him.

Sorry if I'm being a dck man. I think we are arguing the same point. I agree that engine swap are usually not worth the effort, at least when they don't "bolt in".

Flyboy 05-29-2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1139807)
Sorry if I'm being a dck man. I think we are arguing the same point. I agree that engine swap are usually not worth the effort, at least when they don't "bolt in".

Are u sure it won't "bolt in"??? This has Been my question from the beginning...

Volcom370Z 05-29-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 1140249)
Are u sure it won't "bolt in"??? This has Been my question from the beginning...

Even if it did motor mount wise (which i doubt it will), there is no tranny connected directly to that motor. Something tells me the 370z gears ratios (and the tranny and rear end) itsn't cut out for the GTR motor. This all sounds cool in theory, but in practice, I think it would be more work that you are bargaining for. The GTR needs all the gizmos it has to make it great, Z's don't have that.

Red__Zed 05-29-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 1140249)
Are u sure it won't "bolt in"??? This has Been my question from the beginning...

Yes

B.A.Q 05-30-2011 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 1139049)
there is a wrecked GTR on E-bay for 35k. That's what perked my interest...

Just the motor swap, not tranny, would it bolt up?

you can build your engine and buy a GTM TT st.3 and smoke lambos and so on :driving:

2ndZ 06-03-2011 06:33 PM

I'd like to see it installed mid-rear.

ZSIZZLE 06-03-2011 07:44 PM

other than just the "i did it" factor i dont see how this would make any logical or performance sence, a z with any bolt on or even sc kit makes about the same whp as a gtr(low 4's) and that will be pretty reliable if installed and tuned properly. That can be done for under 11k now if someone wanted more you can do like a stage 2 kit with a built shortblock for around 17k or so and that will get you a car with 600-650whp witch again should be safe especially with an ebc. Anything past that i dont know how 100% reliable it can be. Now to get a gtr motor alone gotta cost in the 10k area if not more and thats before you turn 1 nut or bolt to do the swap, assuming it just bolts in with no tranny issues this would easily cost over 20k, but hold on your car still only makes low 4's you still gotta mod that engine to extract power from it!! a 650whp gtr needs around 15-20k to get it there. Now to reverse engineer the tranny issue $$$$$$$$. So with all that being said other that "i did it" why??

ZSIZZLE 06-03-2011 07:44 PM

oh btw it would be cool as hell especially if the gear box went with it

ChrisSlicks 06-03-2011 09:39 PM

There was a Japanese tuner that did an R33 swap into a 350Z, it ended up costing upwards of $70K because of all the one-off parts he had to make to support the AWD system. If you did just the engine it would be much simpler, the advantage the VQ38 has over the VQ37 is that the cylinder walls have a very thin iron lining (using the patented Ford process) for more wear resistance and stronger internals, along with no variable intake timing to get in the way of FI.

ZeeingAround 06-03-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 1139790)
I would not listen to anyone. Its your money, you do what will make you happy. Yeah its not a wise desicion for most, I would still like to see someone do it. That way they can post pictures and videos on youtube and we can all wish we had that kind of money to throw in the trash for a GTR motor swap. Not logical, but oh so sweet.

I have to gree with him. if you really love he car and want a challenge, go for it. it's only money and you can't take it with you.


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