WORST DAY!!!! Possible engine blown???!!!!

Westwood · 05-08-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer

You need to research the laws in Canada to see what law protects you as a consumer. There is one here in the U.S. I can't think of the name as of right now, but it is to protect the consumer in a situation of this sort. In any case where modifications are put on a vehicle and there is a malfunction of any sort the dealership can not blame it on said added parts. i.e. installing an after market exhaust then all of a sudden you have electrical problems. The two are not connected but some dealers like to push the unknowing consumer around and say your warranty is voided b/c of the mod. If you are that worried about it I would remove said parts and put the factory parts back on.
Also included in this act the company must prove that which exact part did what damage. I haven't had something this severe happen and hopefully I won't but I'm sure like most people here they have had their disputes with Nissan. Keep your head up and you will get a new engine. Worst case scenario if they can salvage your engine they will which isn't a bad thing either.

I get my Z serviced at Nissan so they already know i have bolt ons! No sense of trying to hide it cuz it would look suspicious imo.

Westwood · 05-08-2011, 12:19 PM

Thanks guys my stress level is down a bit lol but still stressed out...

ill know tomorrow for sure.

Anarky · 05-08-2011, 12:20 PM

I hope everything works out for you

phunk · 05-08-2011, 12:21 PM

dealers do not rebuild short blocks, or install used ones. they just install new engines and thats about it. there is too much room for error with anything else for them to bother.

that car will get covered under warranty. at least here in the us, i wouldnt even be losing sleep over it.

V8Killer · 05-08-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jran76

If you're happy, I guess that's all that matters. I prefer real data over someone's .02 cents, but that's just me. Have you had an oil analysis done with the RP on your car? If not, I would recommend doing so. There is no real way to know how an oil performs unless you have it analyzed by a lab (like Blackstone). Oil temps, and the way it looks, are not indicative of the way an oil is performing. The data I am talking about has come from real users (like yourself) that have sent their used oil in for analysis.

And, you're right, I have never used it (really for the reasons I mention in my other post). I currently run Redline fluids, but not because I think it is strictly the best oil (lab analysis is decent on the Redline oil I use, but not the best). I use it because it has proven to be good for extended change intervals, and I like the Ester additives (I have only been doing about 3000 miles every 6-9 months). They also make a MT fluid specifically for our manual transmissions which is a big improvement over the Nissan fluid.

So your telling me that the oil temperature change in my car when I switched to RP "indicative" of the way my oil is performing? Color is no longer a factor on oil? So when I get back to the US I may just do that, send my oil off to a lab so they can tell me if it's a good buy then I'll write up the report for you. I'll look into the MT fluid as well I have been thinking about switching. I will say I have heard good things about Redline so I won't knock it.

Kastley85891 · 05-08-2011, 12:23 PM

I think new motor to. Nice to know route cause though.....

On oil topic, I have used RP for a 3K period, no probs, also used M1 (fine) ENEOS (great) and now Redline (this is very nice to, but much better due to addition of oil cooler so 6 quarts)

Westwood · 05-08-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kastley85891

I think new motor to. Nice to know route cause though.....

No sh*t cuz she was running fine Friday night and never had problems, weird engine noises nothing.

Island_370 · 05-08-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jran76

That would be the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act in the US. I did not realize the OP was from Canada, and I am not sure what their laws are.... I know in the US, the MM Warranty Act does protect consumers to some degree (although still a PITA in many cases), but with the crank pulley it would likely be a long losing battle if the dealership really wants to be an a$$.... My experience is that breathing mods you can get away with most of the time, but things that directly affect the mechanics of the engine are a roll of the dice.

I came from a car with serious warranty costs and dealers were under pressure from the manufacturer to challenge all. So I am very wary of any mod....

I hate to be a jerk, but you have to pay to play. Any, and I mean ANY, mod that boosts power can jeopardize the chance of a hassle-free warranty claim.
The dealer can easily blame any mod that increases power....be it intakes, HFC, pulleys, etc. The motor is warrantied at the power level it left the factory. Anything you do to alter it can be grounds enough for the dealer to hold up your car. In the US, the law states that the dealer has to prove the mod did the damage. Any mechanical failure can easily be pointed to extra power. But all the dealer needs to do to ruin you day is hold up your car and wait for you to fight it in court. Do you have the time and money to fight it? You might be right in the end, but you could be out the repair cost while the courts sort it out (and the dealer can drag it out for years...).
Remember, the law is what is eventually enforced, but the dealer may choose to not follow it until the courts make them. Look at speed limits...they don't stop me from speeding, they just cost me money if I am found guilty by a court.

Good luck. I hope the dealer finds a smoking gun and it is clearly not related to power......

jran76 · 05-08-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer

So your telling me that the oil temperature change in my car when I switched to RP "indicative" of the way my oil is performing? Color is no longer a factor on oil? So when I get back to the US I may just do that, send my oil off to a lab so they can tell me if it's a good buy then I'll write up the report for you. I'll look into the MT fluid as well I have been thinking about switching. I will say I have heard good things about Redline so I won't knock it.

No need to do anything for me. If you want to share your findings after the oil is analyzed, I would recommend doing it on the BITOG forum, or one of the threads here that discuss such results. I am not trying to give you a hard time (I think you may be taking it that way), but just sharing my experience. Most RP users with VQ engines that have had their oil analyzed by Blackstone have not reported great results, or mixed results at best. I don't think I would say it is a bad oil, but the general consensus is that for the price, you can do better.

Just search "Blackstone" in this forum, and you will find several threads that discuss UOA results (including some for RP and Redline). The Bob is the oil guy (BITOG) forum is probably the best overall place to find good information on oil.

whoLEEoh · 05-08-2011, 01:19 PM

if you broke anything under the car because u hit something on the road the warranty will not cover it because your dropped...

Westwood · 05-08-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by whoLEEoh

if you broke anything under the car because u hit something on the road the warranty will not cover it because your dropped...

nah i didn't hit or run over anything! im sure its a rod cuz just before i heard the metal snap my lifters started to click really bad and weird thing my oil temp was normal.

Brazilbro · 05-08-2011, 01:39 PM

from what I've heard if its just the block you can get a 3.5HR block for cheap if u have to pay out of pocket. you'll just be out .2L.

SPOHN · 05-08-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazilbro

from what I've heard if its just the block you can get a 3.5HR block for cheap if u have to pay out of pocket. you'll just be out .2L.

That is a flat out insult right there. You can get a built short block for under 4K.

wilsonp · 05-08-2011, 01:51 PM

I would be worried about the pulley as well. I've seen some other posts about problems - not caused by the pulley, but by a bad install of the pulley. I would like the increase from an NST set, but I don't think I'd trust anyone to install it properly.

Westwood · 05-08-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

I would be worried about the pulley as well. I've seen some other posts about problems - not caused by the pulley, but by a bad install of the pulley. I would like the increase from an NST set, but I don't think I'd trust anyone to install it properly.

My pulley was installed in a specialized speed shop (not like its a big deal to install) including all my mods! no cheap work done on my baby im not the type to cut corners to save a few dollars. My Nissan dealer knows me and i dont think ill have any probs but you never know maybe the general manager who ever is in charge of looking,inspecting might want to test me.

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phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	dealers do not rebuild short blocks, or install used ones. they just install new engines and thats about it. there is too much room for error with anything else for them to bother. that car will get covered under warranty. at least here in the us, i wouldnt even be losing sleep over it. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

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Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	I think new motor to. Nice to know route cause though..... On oil topic, I have used RP for a 3K period, no probs, also used M1 (fine) ENEOS (great) and now Redline (this is very nice to, but much better due to addition of oil cooler so 6 quarts) __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP Last edited by Kastley85891; 05-08-2011 at 12:25 PM.

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whoLEEoh Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Miami,FL Posts: 647 Drives: 2010 370z NISMO Rep Power: 16	if you broke anything under the car because u hit something on the road the warranty will not cover it because your dropped... __________________ 2013 Boss 302

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Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 848	from what I've heard if its just the block you can get a 3.5HR block for cheap if u have to pay out of pocket. you'll just be out .2L. __________________ Juke AWD/240Z SR20 08 Evo 10(Stage 2) SOLD Fastest Sport 6spd 370Z 11.8 @126.5SOLD

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wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 17	I would be worried about the pulley as well. I've seen some other posts about problems - not caused by the pulley, but by a bad install of the pulley. I would like the increase from an NST set, but I don't think I'd trust anyone to install it properly. __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

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