Clutch pedal too soft/no feel? Remove the helper spring!

MagmaRed370z

Alright, so I took the stock spring out but then a small spring came out too?
Do I need to put the small spring back? If yes then where does it go?
Everything came out kinda quick that I didn't have time to see how the small spring was setup.

I put everything together withouth the 2 springs. Took a 10 mile ride and everything works.

Please advise. Thank you
See image below (warning it will probably be a big image don't know how to make it smaller)

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6spd

Its perfectly fine sans both springs

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MagmaRed370z

This feels sooooooo much better than with the spring. WOW! I don't really know why Nissan puts this crappy spring in there. This is how a clutch should feel for sure! I already order the new weaker spring and will arrive on Tuesday.

Really! Why the hell did Nissan design it that way? So dumb!

nis350

Looking at the mechanic of these springs. It would probably be a bit harder to press down and stronger on the return. Is that how it feel after the springs removal?

MagmaRed370z

To be honest with you, it feels "softer" both ways and it does not assist on the return as much as with the spring.

MagmaRed370z

The new weaker spring is being delivered to me today. I will report back in a couple of days.

MagmaRed370z

Installed the "softer" spring. Feels much better over stock. Great feel! Feels like a normal clutch now. Hopefully they (Nissan) learns about this and apply it to the next Z.

Pelican170

I took off the spring all together to see how it felt. Im not getting that "wow" factor like a lot of people on here are. I still feel like that pedal is stiff with no feel. I guess its slightly better but not as much as I had hoped for. 1st gear on this car is still frustrating to me. ive been driving manual since 16 yrs old and this is the only car I have ever driven where I get nervous if on a hill stopped, and worried ill stall, buck the car, or get it into gear at a higher RPM than desired.

Oh well...

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MagmaRed370z

I haven't owned any cars that are automatic (only rental cars when I do work trips) and 1st and 2nd gear in this car is a bitch.

Pelican170

Glad its not just me lol

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darkphantom

is this spring mod the same as doing the RJM clutch pedal?

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Smashley

no

nis350

I think the real issue with the clutch is that it engages high without any modulation. It is hard to slip the clutch for a smooth engagement like other cars.

If you analyze the mechanics of that spring, the oem one actually make it lighter both way because the spring compresses when you release the pedal and decompresses when press down. So if you remove or change to a lighter spring, all it does is make it harder both ways. It does nothing to resolve the issue of engage point and lack of modulation.

However, I am sure that we can master it by paying more attention to where the engagement point is and release the clutch accordingly. I found shifting at 2500 rpm from 1st to 2nd generates less jerkiness.

Supmar85

Just purchased the replacement spring from eBay, thanks for the help finding the spring guys!

Hilla_killa

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