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Old 06-25-2011, 09:54 AM   #196 (permalink)
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lets move this into a new thread, I have a long list of like 18-20 people already. I will make the new thread now and post the link here.
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I just did this today. The lower spring was a bitch to get out but the upper came out with ease. I went down to the hardware store and bought a weaker spring and will probably install that in a few days
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Got my spring in the mail today (Canada post was on strike)

My bottom pin was a pain to get out, ruined the pin in the process. Looking at the bottom bracket it looks like the holes weren't machined cleanly.

Took the car out for spin without a spring. It might be a placebo effect but it's feels so much better. 1-2 shifts are finally smooth.

a side note, I live in a condo with underground monitored parking and it turns out the security guards are paying attention, two different guards came out to check that I wasn't trying to hotwire my own car, guess all they saw was a pair of legs twitching trying to get the stupid pin out
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Does anyone have god awful creaking noise with their new spring??
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Does anyone have god awful creaking noise with their new spring??
spring wont creak, but the pins/assembly might. All the pins are lubed pretty well from the factory.
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Does anyone have god awful creaking noise with their new spring??
I just used some lithium grease I had laying around. Fixed the creak from the pins.
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I finally got around to installing my spring and after some driving time, wanted to share my experience for those interested in the spring. I had been following the first group buy of Esfourteen's clutch helper spring but since I was in China, I hoped I could hold off ordering until I got back... Well, that didn't work as I has no patience. Temptation was too much after seeing all the rave reviews and thankfully, Nick still had a few left so I took him up and finally got it installed today.

Installation:

A number of people have commented that you need to file/sand a few areas to get the pins on the top and bottom back in. My observation is that you should leave the bottom pin in as you do not need to remove it and will make re-installation that much easier. The part that prevented me from sliding the pin back in the top was that the top hole in the actual spring assembly was a close fit with the pin so I used a round file to take the internal edges off. After losing a circlip after it shot off into the footwell, I went to Autozone and bought a kit of them and had to file one of the kit circlips to get it to fit. Otherwise, it was a pretty straightforward if not physically awkward install haha.

Impressions:

First thing I noticed is that pedal effort was reduced slightly. It does not have that springy over-boosted feel that the stock spring had which is absolutely awesome. There is a noticeable amount of slack at the top of the pedal but I can live with that. The best way I can describe the new feel of the clutch is that it is much more natural. The pedal movement is more linear through the entire range of the clutch's actuation and instantly allowed me to shift more smoothly and consistently in stop and go traffic. It also makes me feel like I can modulate the clutch with much more smoothness than before as the clutch pedal isn't pushing against your foot as much since the stock spring over-boosted the rebound.


Bottom line is this is one of the best mods I have done to the Z to date and for the price and prompt delivery Nick commands, is one of the best bang for the buck drive-ability improvements out there at the moment.
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I finally got around to installing my spring and after some driving time, wanted to share my experience for those interested in the spring. I had been following the first group buy of Esfourteen's clutch helper spring but since I was in China, I hoped I could hold off ordering until I got back... Well, that didn't work as I has no patience. Temptation was too much after seeing all the rave reviews and thankfully, Nick still had a few left so I took him up and finally got it installed today.

Installation:

A number of people have commented that you need to file/sand a few areas to get the pins on the top and bottom back in. My observation is that you should leave the bottom pin in as you do not need to remove it and will make re-installation that much easier. The part that prevented me from sliding the pin back in the top was that the top hole in the actual spring assembly was a close fit with the pin so I used a round file to take the internal edges off. After losing a circlip after it shot off into the footwell, I went to Autozone and bought a kit of them and had to file one of the kit circlips to get it to fit. Otherwise, it was a pretty straightforward if not physically awkward install haha.

Impressions:

First thing I noticed is that pedal effort was reduced slightly. It does not have that springy over-boosted feel that the stock spring had which is absolutely awesome. There is a noticeable amount of slack at the top of the pedal but I can live with that. The best way I can describe the new feel of the clutch is that it is much more natural. The pedal movement is more linear through the entire range of the clutch's actuation and instantly allowed me to shift more smoothly and consistently in stop and go traffic. It also makes me feel like I can modulate the clutch with much more smoothness than before as the clutch pedal isn't pushing against your foot as much since the stock spring over-boosted the rebound.


Bottom line is this is one of the best mods I have done to the Z to date and for the price and prompt delivery Nick commands, is one of the best bang for the buck drive-ability improvements out there at the moment.
I have my spring here in NY and I have yet to attempt an install- is there a step by step guide somewhere with pics and or video? The car is brand new and Im hesitant to F - it up.

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