Clutch pedal too soft/no feel? Remove the helper spring!

Armonster · 05-09-2011, 12:53 PM

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370zFORme!! · 05-09-2011, 01:51 PM

Ok so its been a couple of days and I dont know what happened but the 1/2" dead pedal I had at the top of the pedal range is now gone. I dont know if driving for a couple of days had any effect on this, but its pretty tight now. Not only that but I feel like the clutch should have come this way from the factory. Feels so much better. This is prob the coolest, easiest, and most practical mod.

esfourteen · 05-09-2011, 03:58 PM

Yep this is a great free mod, I love the stock clutch now. I'm really surprised more people aren't chiming in/trying this out, its easily reversible.

roplusbee · 05-09-2011, 05:01 PM

I won't go back.............It is really good without it.

chops · 05-09-2011, 06:17 PM

im going to try this tonight! cant wait to see how it affects my shifting

KingZee · 05-09-2011, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee

I won't go back.............It is really good without it.

Did your 1/2in slack disappear as well like 370zForme! by any chance? This is amazing news btw, I've been wondering wtf is wrong with the 370Z clutch!

gaveup · 05-09-2011, 06:55 PM

just did it.

Amazing. Just a little driving and it was way smoother.

Side note, I just removed the bottom pin and it was retarded hard to get out, and even harder to get back in...If I decide to put it back (warranty work) I have no idea how I am getting it back in.

I just left the top pin and the other shaft because it seemed like it was too much hassle to remove it. It doesn't hurt anything just hanging out there.

esfourteen · 05-09-2011, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup

just did it.

Amazing. Just a little driving and it was way smoother.

Side note, I just removed the bottom pin and it was retarded hard to get out, and even harder to get back in...If I decide to put it back (warranty work) I have no idea how I am getting it back in.

I just left the top pin and the other shaft because it seemed like it was too much hassle to remove it. It doesn't hurt anything just hanging out there.

it takes 2 minutes to remove or install the entire assembly:

Use a pair of needle nose pilers or a small flat head screw driver to remove the C clips on the pins.

Release the pressure on the spring by depressing the clutch pedal with one hand, tap the pins out.

KingZee · 05-09-2011, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup

just did it.

Amazing. Just a little driving and it was way smoother.

Side note, I just removed the bottom pin and it was retarded hard to get out, and even harder to get back in...If I decide to put it back (warranty work) I have no idea how I am getting it back in.

I just left the top pin and the other shaft because it seemed like it was too much hassle to remove it. It doesn't hurt anything just hanging out there.

This really shouldn't void warranty, has nothing to do with anything really.

F4iMerlin · 05-09-2011, 07:59 PM

I too just did this mod. This is how a clutch pedal is supposed to feel. The stock feel wasn't terrible, but like others noted, there was no pressure plate feedback.
I do notice a little slack at the top of the pedal now however. Will give it a day or two and see if it goes away.

Anarky · 05-09-2011, 08:07 PM

I am going to give this a shot this weekend. I will chime in after and give the results.

gaveup · 05-09-2011, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esfourteen

it takes 2 minutes to remove or install the entire assembly:

Use a pair of needle nose pilers or a small flat head screw driver to remove the C clips on the pins.

Release the pressure on the spring by depressing the clutch pedal with one hand, tap the pins out.

hehe I already had it out

SE · 05-09-2011, 10:01 PM

You get a lot more feedback when taking out the spring, but one thing to note is that typically this shaft is also designed as an additional support for the clutch pedal. By removing the spring assembly entirely, it may cause a bit of side to side play when the pedal is depressed. Over time, this may cause premature wear on the CMC assembly and seals. The engineers who designed the clutch pedal designed for the mount to be used in conjunction with the spring assembly, not the top pivot mount by itself.

KingZee · 05-09-2011, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VICTORxSE

You get a lot more feedback when taking out the spring, but one thing to note is that typically this shaft is also designed as an additional support for the clutch pedal. By removing the spring assembly entirely, it may cause a bit of side to side play when the pedal is depressed. Over time, this may cause premature wear on the CMC assembly and seals. The engineers who designed the clutch pedal designed for the mount to be used in conjunction with the spring assembly, not the top pivot mount by itself.

I knew this SHOULD be an issue over time, I think I'm in denial.

JB1 · 05-09-2011, 10:22 PM

I just took the spring out, took about a minute to do so. The test drive will have to wait another day, but just pushing the pedal already feels better, less linear, as in: you can feel the actual clutch spring. I'll report back in 2 days.

05-09-2011, 01:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
370zFORme!! Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,459 Drives: 2012 6MT STiffy Rep Power: 17	Ok so its been a couple of days and I dont know what happened but the 1/2" dead pedal I had at the top of the pedal range is now gone. I dont know if driving for a couple of days had any effect on this, but its pretty tight now. Not only that but I feel like the clutch should have come this way from the factory. Feels so much better. This is prob the coolest, easiest, and most practical mod. __________________ 87' Honda Civic Hatchback: Kaput @ 288,000 miles, 90' Toyota Celica: Kaput @ 175,000 miles, 93' Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4: Kaput @ 138,000 miles, 06' Scion Tc: Traded in @ 64,000 miles, 10' Nissan 370z: Traded in @ 25,000 miles, 12' Subaru Impreza Sti: Current.

05-09-2011, 03:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
esfourteen A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: LI, NY Posts: 1,375 Drives: 40th TT Rep Power: 18	Yep this is a great free mod, I love the stock clutch now. I'm really surprised more people aren't chiming in/trying this out, its easily reversible. __________________ Build Thread \| GTM TT Install Thread \| Engine Build Thread

05-09-2011, 05:01 PM	#19 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	I won't go back.............It is really good without it. __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

05-09-2011, 06:55 PM	#22 (permalink)
gaveup Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tamarac FL Posts: 324 Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 181	just did it. Amazing. Just a little driving and it was way smoother. Side note, I just removed the bottom pin and it was retarded hard to get out, and even harder to get back in...If I decide to put it back (warranty work) I have no idea how I am getting it back in. I just left the top pin and the other shaft because it seemed like it was too much hassle to remove it. It doesn't hurt anything just hanging out there. __________________ 2010 Magnetic Black Metallic 370Z 6M stillen gen 3 CAI - topspeed test pipes - invidia gemini CBE - UpRev tune 301whp (HP Logic Mustang Dyno)

05-09-2011, 10:22 PM	#30 (permalink)
JB1 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 748 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z sold Rep Power: 17	I just took the spring out, took about a minute to do so. The test drive will have to wait another day, but just pushing the pedal already feels better, less linear, as in: you can feel the actual clutch spring. I'll report back in 2 days. __________________ Black Fangs // Black rear Valance // Berk CBE // COBB post MAF tubes // K&N drop in filters // Setrab Oil Cooler // Stillen Sway bars // Z1 SS brake lines // Stillen brake cooling kit // Harness bar // Last edited by JB1; 05-09-2011 at 10:44 PM.

05-09-2011, 12:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
Armonster Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 270 Drives: 2010 370z t/sp/6mt Rep Power: 14	subscribed for more feedback

05-09-2011, 06:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
chops A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NA Posts: 1,732 Drives: NA Rep Power: 22	im going to try this tonight! cant wait to see how it affects my shifting

05-09-2011, 07:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
F4iMerlin Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bonaire, GA Age: 46 Posts: 45 Drives: 2010 Touring Rep Power: 14	I too just did this mod. This is how a clutch pedal is supposed to feel. The stock feel wasn't terrible, but like others noted, there was no pressure plate feedback. I do notice a little slack at the top of the pedal now however. Will give it a day or two and see if it goes away.

05-09-2011, 08:07 PM	#26 (permalink)
Anarky Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 118 Drives: 2011 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 15	I am going to give this a shot this weekend. I will chime in after and give the results.

05-09-2011, 10:01 PM	#28 (permalink)
SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 23	You get a lot more feedback when taking out the spring, but one thing to note is that typically this shaft is also designed as an additional support for the clutch pedal. By removing the spring assembly entirely, it may cause a bit of side to side play when the pedal is depressed. Over time, this may cause premature wear on the CMC assembly and seals. The engineers who designed the clutch pedal designed for the mount to be used in conjunction with the spring assembly, not the top pivot mount by itself.

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