Clutch pedal too soft/no feel? Remove the helper spring!

Gregor12 · 02-04-2014, 02:10 AM

Oh snap i know what im doin tomorrow!!!

hopefully its as good as you guys claim because my clutch has no feel lol

1slow370 · 02-04-2014, 12:36 PM

I was playing with it the other day and found out that part of the weird clutch feel isn't just that the spring assist makes it feel more vague but that the spring assembly actually over centers so that when you push down you are fighting the spring until it passes center then it starts assisting you thats why the car feels like there are 2 engagement points some times because as you push the clutch down all of a sudden it gets easier to push.

Bananaz · 02-04-2014, 01:44 PM

Just removed the spring and the bottom pin and wow it feels like a normal clutch. I don't like the floppy feel of the clutch though but I already have the softer spring to replace it

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Bananaz · 02-08-2014, 02:34 PM

One side of the pin has a lip just put a flathead to the lip and hammer it out and once it's out enough just keep pulling on it

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Bananaz · 02-08-2014, 03:06 PM

I didn't push the clutch in I just hammered it the most I could and then pushed the clutch in and wiggled the pin out

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Jsolo · 02-08-2014, 10:36 PM

G'z. You guys are going to butcher and destroy the bracket/clevis that way!

You're supposed to unload the spring by depressing the pedal. The pin slide right out with minimal effort.

H2O_Doc · 02-08-2014, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maizenblue

I pressed the clutch in and even sprayed it with wd40 and it does not come out, and to restate it yes I did remove the clips lol

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Maybe needs a slight percussive adjustment.

Gregor12 · 02-09-2014, 03:47 AM

after removing the pins i pushed the clutch pedal to the floor with my hand and the spring popped right out... clutch feels a million times better!!!

Gibby1113 · 02-09-2014, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maizenblue

I pressed the clutch in and even sprayed it with wd40 and it does not come out, and to restate it yes I did remove the clips lol

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Mine was a PITA to remove too. I had someone depressing the clutch for me while I grabbed the pin and fought w/ it for about 45 mins but it came out eventually

Jsolo · 02-09-2014, 11:02 AM

Maybe a good idea to pull the pin once a year and apply some white lithium grease?

7speed · 02-13-2014, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibby1113

Mine was a PITA to remove too. I had someone depressing the clutch for me while I grabbed the pin and fought w/ it for about 45 mins but it came out eventually

I used a baseball bat to seat to hold clutch down. My pin wouldn't slide right either though, I had to hold it with a locking wrench and wiggle/pull out.

Crypto2k · 06-07-2014, 08:36 PM

I think enough people have given this a thumbs up but what's one more. After picking up a Z a couple days ago, introduction on the forum and further details forthcoming, I thought at first the clutch was just stiff and the car was just new to me so was just rusty and I'd get used to it. Well after 12+hrs of continuos driving it still felt numb and the engagement point mysterious. I thought I had lost my mojo despite driving a stick off and on for the last 18yrs. Decided to look it up and found this thread. Immediately removed the spring (was super easy) and went for a drive.

Night and day difference. The feel is there now. Easing on the throttle is much easier and predictable. Incline starts are also very much improved.

Considering ease of mod to measuable benefit, I'm not sure it gets better than this.

Thanks everyone. Looking forward to being part of the community here. Seems like a great group and theres not much that hasn't been covered.

chii370 · 06-08-2014, 09:10 AM

hmmmmm might try this, when I first heard about it there was about 2 guinea pigs but now theres lots lol.

Smashley · 06-08-2014, 12:04 PM

Where do we get the softer replacement spring some folks are using?

MacCool · 06-08-2014, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smashley

Where do we get the softer replacement spring some folks are using?

I bought one for my 2011 Z but never installed it. My 2014 doesn't need it. I'd sell mine, PM me if interested and can't find it elsewhere.

It's a Century Spring P/N 72577

02-04-2014, 02:10 AM	#511 (permalink)
Gregor12 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: CHARLOTTE, NC Posts: 433 Drives: 2012 370z 6mt sport Rep Power: 12	Oh snap i know what im doin tomorrow!!! hopefully its as good as you guys claim because my clutch has no feel lol b15 and Gibby1113 like this.

02-04-2014, 12:36 PM	#512 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	I was playing with it the other day and found out that part of the weird clutch feel isn't just that the spring assist makes it feel more vague but that the spring assembly actually over centers so that when you push down you are fighting the spring until it passes center then it starts assisting you thats why the car feels like there are 2 engagement points some times because as you push the clutch down all of a sudden it gets easier to push. Bananaz likes this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

02-04-2014, 01:44 PM	#513 (permalink)
Bananaz Track Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 637 Drives: 09 370z 6MT/B+Sport Rep Power: 14	Just removed the spring and the bottom pin and wow it feels like a normal clutch. I don't like the floppy feel of the clutch though but I already have the softer spring to replace it Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk __________________ BC - SSR - Evo-R - ViS - SPC - ZSpeed - Beluga - Blox - 35% Tint - Clutch Spring - Fang Forced Air Ducting

02-08-2014, 02:34 PM	#514 (permalink)
Bananaz Track Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 637 Drives: 09 370z 6MT/B+Sport Rep Power: 14	One side of the pin has a lip just put a flathead to the lip and hammer it out and once it's out enough just keep pulling on it Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk __________________ BC - SSR - Evo-R - ViS - SPC - ZSpeed - Beluga - Blox - 35% Tint - Clutch Spring - Fang Forced Air Ducting

02-08-2014, 03:06 PM	#515 (permalink)
Bananaz Track Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 637 Drives: 09 370z 6MT/B+Sport Rep Power: 14	I didn't push the clutch in I just hammered it the most I could and then pushed the clutch in and wiggled the pin out Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk __________________ BC - SSR - Evo-R - ViS - SPC - ZSpeed - Beluga - Blox - 35% Tint - Clutch Spring - Fang Forced Air Ducting

02-08-2014, 10:36 PM	#516 (permalink)
Jsolo Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: chicago Posts: 783 Drives: '12 G37 6MT Rep Power: 15	G'z. You guys are going to butcher and destroy the bracket/clevis that way! You're supposed to unload the spring by depressing the pedal. The pin slide right out with minimal effort. SwedeZ likes this. __________________ G37S Sedan 6MT, Eibach swaybars, Invidia Exhaust, Weaker Clutch Pedal Spring For sale links

02-09-2014, 03:47 AM	#518 (permalink)
Gregor12 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: CHARLOTTE, NC Posts: 433 Drives: 2012 370z 6mt sport Rep Power: 12	after removing the pins i pushed the clutch pedal to the floor with my hand and the spring popped right out... clutch feels a million times better!!!

02-09-2014, 11:02 AM	#520 (permalink)
Jsolo Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: chicago Posts: 783 Drives: '12 G37 6MT Rep Power: 15	Maybe a good idea to pull the pin once a year and apply some white lithium grease? __________________ G37S Sedan 6MT, Eibach swaybars, Invidia Exhaust, Weaker Clutch Pedal Spring For sale links

06-07-2014, 08:36 PM	#522 (permalink)
Crypto2k Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Denver Posts: 55 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 12	I think enough people have given this a thumbs up but what's one more. After picking up a Z a couple days ago, introduction on the forum and further details forthcoming, I thought at first the clutch was just stiff and the car was just new to me so was just rusty and I'd get used to it. Well after 12+hrs of continuos driving it still felt numb and the engagement point mysterious. I thought I had lost my mojo despite driving a stick off and on for the last 18yrs. Decided to look it up and found this thread. Immediately removed the spring (was super easy) and went for a drive. Night and day difference. The feel is there now. Easing on the throttle is much easier and predictable. Incline starts are also very much improved. Considering ease of mod to measuable benefit, I'm not sure it gets better than this. Thanks everyone. Looking forward to being part of the community here. Seems like a great group and theres not much that hasn't been covered. 7speed and Smashley like this.

06-08-2014, 09:10 AM	#523 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	hmmmmm might try this, when I first heard about it there was about 2 guinea pigs but now theres lots lol.

06-08-2014, 12:04 PM	#524 (permalink)
Smashley Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 347 Drives: mt/sport/tour MB Rep Power: 12	Where do we get the softer replacement spring some folks are using?

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