Clutch pedal too soft/no feel? Remove the helper spring!

ZOLE · 05-18-2012, 03:25 PM

Just finished installing my spring that I got from Jsolo. Install was a breeze, took about 5 minutes. Using a ziptie to hold the clutch pedal out of the way is key. Had a little trouble getting the pin back in but used some adjustable pliers to help "squeeze" the pin back in.

Pedal feel is noticeably different. I wouldn't say it's a "night and day" type of difference, but there definately seems to be more "feel" during clutch engagement now. Another thing I notice is that if I lightly touch the clutch pedal (car is parked) there is a bit more play that with the stock spring. This does not affect anything really, the new softer spring still does its job on returning the clutch pedal all the way to the top.

kenny's 370z · 07-10-2012, 09:58 PM

another awesome mod.now i dont have to feel like a noob starting out in first

binary0x01 · 07-11-2012, 12:54 AM

I thought about doing this, and then realized that you get what you pay for, so opted for the RJM adjustable clutch pedal, i'll rep back when installed, but reading the forums it is clear that it is the real solution.

Evil Sports · 07-11-2012, 06:09 AM

Sorry bro but in this instance Get what you pay for did NOT apply. A simple $40 spring solved the ills of this clutch peddle.

370Z Purist · 07-11-2012, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binary0x01

I thought about doing this, and then realized that you get what you pay for, so opted for the RJM adjustable clutch pedal, i'll rep back when installed, but reading the forums it is clear that it is the real solution.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Sports

Sorry bro but in this instance Get what you pay for did NOT apply. A simple $40 spring solved the ills of this clutch peddle.

Less is more. The adjustable pedal is just meant to extend the window of the engagement window given by the master cylinder by changing the angle of operation of the clutch pedal. It's mostly meant for people with extremely grabby clutches that still need to be streeted, i.e. clutches that are like an on-off switch. <500 torques need not apply. People with unsprung six puck drag clutches, maybe and probably. Someone with a 800 rwhp Z and using some insane multiplate clutch or a super grabby, unsprung disc with a super high clamp force plate would definitely need something like this, unless they just get a really really nice clutch with a different master cylinder.

PharmDZ · 07-13-2012, 08:32 PM

Hey everyone - I'm new to the forum and did a bit of searching, but I haven't been able to find where I could get my hands on this spring to replace. Anyone have one they're willing to sell or have a link to somewhere where I could purchase one? Thanks so much.

LMBmikeZ · 07-13-2012, 09:00 PM

I still have them. Thread is linked in my signature

TVez · 07-14-2012, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Sports

Sorry bro but in this instance Get what you pay for did NOT apply. A simple $40 spring solved the ills of this clutch peddle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z Purist

Less is more. The adjustable pedal is just meant to extend the window of the engagement window given by the master cylinder by changing the angle of operation of the clutch pedal. It's mostly meant for people with extremely grabby clutches that still need to be streeted, i.e. clutches that are like an on-off switch. <500 torques need not apply. People with unsprung six puck drag clutches, maybe and probably. Someone with a 800 rwhp Z and using some insane multiplate clutch or a super grabby, unsprung disc with a super high clamp force plate would definitely need something like this, unless they just get a really really nice clutch with a different master cylinder.

Have either of you actually driven a 350Z or 370Z with the RJM Pedal Mod installed???? Because I couldn't disagree with you guys more.

I had done the simple spring mod and adjusted the clutch rod as soon as I got my 370Z back in May. It made it feel better but certainly not a night&day difference and you still have to work for those smooth shifts. My former daily driver was an 07HR 350Z that I owned since new so I know how to drive these cars well and what they feel like when modded with the previously available DIY's

I installed the RJM pedal assembly last weekend and all I can say is it's the best $$$ I've ever spent on a mod. After having driven with it for a week I'd of happily paid double what it cost me as RJM is selling these stupid cheap for the amount of engineering that went into the design, complex fabrication and the quality of the product. The difference in clutch feel is phenomenal. My 2010Z is still running the factory clutch. Stock clutches and less then 500HP definitely DO apply. The RJM kits have a huge following over on my350z and I've never seen a review thread with so many ridiculously positive comments from well respected members. Also looking over there probably about half of those reviews are from guys fed up with their stock or other mild clutches (JWT etc)

This is a case where you simply don’t what you’ve been missing until you’ve driven one.

LMBmikeZ · 07-14-2012, 04:28 PM

I think the guys are just saying its not needed until you have 500+hp. Plus $200 vs $20? It's only 10% of the cost so IMO ppl are gonna say go with the cheaper until you need the upgrade.

modme · 07-14-2012, 04:38 PM

The rjm pedal is not something that is needed, just like any other aftermarket parts. The 370z is perfectly fine from factory, nothing aftermarket is needed. We add aftermarket parts to enhance and improve stock parts. The spring and pedal are completely different. Comparing them is like comparing apples to oranges. The rjm pedal will improve clutch function, doesn't matter if it's stock or aftermarket clutches. There is no reason to attribute horsepower levels to the need for this pedal. If you want to shift easier and have total control of the clutch, you should get the pedal.

Stino · 07-24-2012, 08:27 PM

I purchased the RJM Performance Clutch Pedal Assembly and installed it over the weekend. I'm very impressed with this Clutch Pedal Assembly, I must say that my 370Z feels like a different car; It actually changes the whole car experience.

I have driven manual cars my whole life, however, when I first purchased my 370Z and drove it around for a day, It felt like I never drove a manual before. 1st and 2nd gear was very jumpy and difficult, now, with the Clutch Pedal Assembly, it's smooth as ice. I barely have to give it any gas when starting from a dead stop and I'm able to switch gears way smoother. I just can't believe the difference it makes. Also, being able to adjust the clutch pedal to your liking makes it even that much better. I highly recommend this MOD.

See pics below.

RJM Clutch Assembly Installed

Factory Clutch Assembly

LMBmikeZ · 07-25-2012, 08:32 AM

and here I thought this thread was about removing the spring or replacing with a weaker one???

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Stino · 07-25-2012, 10:37 PM

[QUOTE=LMBmikeZ;1836456]and here I thought this thread was about removing the spring or replacing with a weaker one???

LMBmikeZ, you thought wrong. Ask yourself these questions, then think about your response to my posting.

Why are members swapping the factory clutch spring for an after market spring?

What is the real issue at hand?

This is what I've learned from this thread … "there are a lot of Z owners' that are not happy with the factory clutch feel; including myself." Hence wanting to change the helper spring. What some members may not know, is that there are other solutions that can solve their clutch issues.

As a member of this forum, I feel it's my duty to help educate and inform my fellow members' so they can make informed decisions. Therefore I feel this was the perfect thread to post in.

I purchased a spring from you and all was good. However, in my opinion, the weaker spring is a short-term fix at best. I wanted to install a long-term/permanent solution and that's why I opted for the RJM Performance Clutch Assembly. Read the reviews.

Just so you know, It wasn't my intent to steer members away from buying the after market spring from you. I was just trying to HELP solve the real issue at hand.

I'll say this ... members that are on a tight budget, opt for the helper spring. If you have the money and want to completely change the driving experience of your Z, spend the $255. You won't be disappointed, I promise.

LMBmikeZ · 07-25-2012, 10:39 PM

I hear ya but when the thread is talking about a $20 fix........

Just saying that's where we were with this thread

I am just not in favour of it.....however I would do this before I would ever do a sprint booster those just seem like it would f*ck up your car

Stino · 07-25-2012, 10:58 PM

I agree. From what I've read, I wouldn't attempt the Sprint Booster as well.

05-18-2012, 03:25 PM	#361 (permalink)
ZOLE Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Reisterstown, MD Posts: 164 Drives: 370Z PG Touring MT Rep Power: 15	Just finished installing my spring that I got from Jsolo. Install was a breeze, took about 5 minutes. Using a ziptie to hold the clutch pedal out of the way is key. Had a little trouble getting the pin back in but used some adjustable pliers to help "squeeze" the pin back in. Pedal feel is noticeably different. I wouldn't say it's a "night and day" type of difference, but there definately seems to be more "feel" during clutch engagement now. Another thing I notice is that if I lightly touch the clutch pedal (car is parked) there is a bit more play that with the stock spring. This does not affect anything really, the new softer spring still does its job on returning the clutch pedal all the way to the top. __________________ "In my universe, evolution kills the strong". -Dilbert

07-11-2012, 06:09 AM	#364 (permalink)
Evil Sports Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mass Posts: 187 Drives: 11-370z-Blue-M6-ST Rep Power: 14	Sorry bro but in this instance Get what you pay for did NOT apply. A simple $40 spring solved the ills of this clutch peddle. __________________ My current Rice stable, Lexus RX 330, Nissan 370z, Honda Aquatrax turbo, Yamaha 212SS

07-13-2012, 09:00 PM	#367 (permalink)
LMBmikeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,237 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 10350	I still have them. Thread is linked in my signature __________________ CUSTOM NISMO \| BERK \| H&R \| STANCE \| SPL everything \| EVO-R \| 34 Setrab \| WHITELINE \| Redline \| Carkitcompany \| Zspeed \| UpRev \| SEIBON Last edited by LMBmikeZ; 07-14-2012 at 05:25 AM.

07-14-2012, 04:28 PM	#369 (permalink)
LMBmikeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,237 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 10350	I think the guys are just saying its not needed until you have 500+hp. Plus $200 vs $20? It's only 10% of the cost so IMO ppl are gonna say go with the cheaper until you need the upgrade. __________________ CUSTOM NISMO \| BERK \| H&R \| STANCE \| SPL everything \| EVO-R \| 34 Setrab \| WHITELINE \| Redline \| Carkitcompany \| Zspeed \| UpRev \| SEIBON

07-14-2012, 04:38 PM	#370 (permalink)
modme Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NY Posts: 345 Drives: G37 Rep Power: 16	The rjm pedal is not something that is needed, just like any other aftermarket parts. The 370z is perfectly fine from factory, nothing aftermarket is needed. We add aftermarket parts to enhance and improve stock parts. The spring and pedal are completely different. Comparing them is like comparing apples to oranges. The rjm pedal will improve clutch function, doesn't matter if it's stock or aftermarket clutches. There is no reason to attribute horsepower levels to the need for this pedal. If you want to shift easier and have total control of the clutch, you should get the pedal. __________________ GTM Twin Turbo Stage 2\|GTR Turbo/Engine Gauges\|KW V3 Coilovers\|HKS Exhaust\|Oil Cooler\| Vossen CV1

07-10-2012, 09:58 PM	#362 (permalink)
kenny's 370z Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: TN Age: 58 Posts: 243 Drives: 2012 frontier sv v6 Rep Power: 13	another awesome mod.now i dont have to feel like a noob starting out in first

07-11-2012, 12:54 AM	#363 (permalink)
binary0x01 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Idaho Posts: 892 Drives: 2012 6-SPEED 3.7L Z Rep Power: 14	I thought about doing this, and then realized that you get what you pay for, so opted for the RJM adjustable clutch pedal, i'll rep back when installed, but reading the forums it is clear that it is the real solution.

07-13-2012, 08:32 PM	#366 (permalink)
PharmDZ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 997 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 14	Hey everyone - I'm new to the forum and did a bit of searching, but I haven't been able to find where I could get my hands on this spring to replace. Anyone have one they're willing to sell or have a link to somewhere where I could purchase one? Thanks so much.

07-24-2012, 08:27 PM	#371 (permalink)
Stino Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 159 Drives: 2010 370Z Sport Rep Power: 14	RJM Performance Clutch Pedal Assembly Installed I purchased the RJM Performance Clutch Pedal Assembly and installed it over the weekend. I'm very impressed with this Clutch Pedal Assembly, I must say that my 370Z feels like a different car; It actually changes the whole car experience. I have driven manual cars my whole life, however, when I first purchased my 370Z and drove it around for a day, It felt like I never drove a manual before. 1st and 2nd gear was very jumpy and difficult, now, with the Clutch Pedal Assembly, it's smooth as ice. I barely have to give it any gas when starting from a dead stop and I'm able to switch gears way smoother. I just can't believe the difference it makes. Also, being able to adjust the clutch pedal to your liking makes it even that much better. I highly recommend this MOD. See pics below. RJM Clutch Assembly Installed Factory Clutch Assembly __________________ 10 370Z Sport\|Berk CBE & HFC\|NISMO R-TUNE CAI\|Z1 Oil & PS Coolers\|Mishimoto Radiator\|UpRev\|Nismo S-Tune\|SEIBON Spoiler\|Eibach Sways, Springs, Spacers\|SPC Camber\|RJM Clutch Pedal\|Enkei Wheels\|StopTech Rotors & Pads\|SS Brake/Clutch Lines\|Alpine W900BT, PDX5, Rear Camera, Boston SR60, S35 & 10" G3 Sub\|3M Ceramic Tint

07-25-2012, 08:32 AM	#372 (permalink)
LMBmikeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,237 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 10350	and here I thought this thread was about removing the spring or replacing with a weaker one??? ( Click to show/hide ) another thread jacked, heading out to left field again...... __________________ CUSTOM NISMO \| BERK \| H&R \| STANCE \| SPL everything \| EVO-R \| 34 Setrab \| WHITELINE \| Redline \| Carkitcompany \| Zspeed \| UpRev \| SEIBON

07-25-2012, 10:37 PM	#373 (permalink)
Stino Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 159 Drives: 2010 370Z Sport Rep Power: 14	[QUOTE=LMBmikeZ;1836456]and here I thought this thread was about removing the spring or replacing with a weaker one??? LMBmikeZ, you thought wrong. Ask yourself these questions, then think about your response to my posting. Why are members swapping the factory clutch spring for an after market spring? What is the real issue at hand? This is what I've learned from this thread … "there are a lot of Z owners' that are not happy with the factory clutch feel; including myself." Hence wanting to change the helper spring. What some members may not know, is that there are other solutions that can solve their clutch issues. As a member of this forum, I feel it's my duty to help educate and inform my fellow members' so they can make informed decisions. Therefore I feel this was the perfect thread to post in. I purchased a spring from you and all was good. However, in my opinion, the weaker spring is a short-term fix at best. I wanted to install a long-term/permanent solution and that's why I opted for the RJM Performance Clutch Assembly. Read the reviews. Just so you know, It wasn't my intent to steer members away from buying the after market spring from you. I was just trying to HELP solve the real issue at hand. I'll say this ... members that are on a tight budget, opt for the helper spring. If you have the money and want to completely change the driving experience of your Z, spend the $255. You won't be disappointed, I promise. __________________ 10 370Z Sport\|Berk CBE & HFC\|NISMO R-TUNE CAI\|Z1 Oil & PS Coolers\|Mishimoto Radiator\|UpRev\|Nismo S-Tune\|SEIBON Spoiler\|Eibach Sways, Springs, Spacers\|SPC Camber\|RJM Clutch Pedal\|Enkei Wheels\|StopTech Rotors & Pads\|SS Brake/Clutch Lines\|Alpine W900BT, PDX5, Rear Camera, Boston SR60, S35 & 10" G3 Sub\|3M Ceramic Tint

07-25-2012, 10:39 PM	#374 (permalink)
LMBmikeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,237 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 10350	I hear ya but when the thread is talking about a $20 fix........ Just saying that's where we were with this thread I am just not in favour of it.....however I would do this before I would ever do a sprint booster those just seem like it would f*ck up your car __________________ CUSTOM NISMO \| BERK \| H&R \| STANCE \| SPL everything \| EVO-R \| 34 Setrab \| WHITELINE \| Redline \| Carkitcompany \| Zspeed \| UpRev \| SEIBON

07-25-2012, 10:58 PM	#375 (permalink)
Stino Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 159 Drives: 2010 370Z Sport Rep Power: 14	I agree. From what I've read, I wouldn't attempt the Sprint Booster as well. __________________ 10 370Z Sport\|Berk CBE & HFC\|NISMO R-TUNE CAI\|Z1 Oil & PS Coolers\|Mishimoto Radiator\|UpRev\|Nismo S-Tune\|SEIBON Spoiler\|Eibach Sways, Springs, Spacers\|SPC Camber\|RJM Clutch Pedal\|Enkei Wheels\|StopTech Rotors & Pads\|SS Brake/Clutch Lines\|Alpine W900BT, PDX5, Rear Camera, Boston SR60, S35 & 10" G3 Sub\|3M Ceramic Tint

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