Everyone with oil temp issues

antennahead · 05-09-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Yeah..

It's probably true that they sorta shot themselves in foot on this one by even including an oil temp gauge. On the other hand, they probably did it precisely because they knew this engine could be pushed to overheat, and they wanted the driver to have the feedback to know to drop the revs and save it, at least. Someone just dropped the ball along the way on the factory cooler option.

I don't think it was a dropped ball, I think it was "bean counters". They knew the issue existed, hence the magazine demo cars equiped with oil coolers.

John

lww · 05-09-2009, 11:26 AM

Ok, this was a serious tactical mistake. By everyone using the SAME case #, we've compromised the scope of the problem by minimizing it's apparent impact.

For instance, when the bean counters "run the numbers" to see if they should spend the money on some "corrective" action, they'll run a query against their database to find all the cases related to "oil over-heating" and all 100 people that used the same case # will get UNDER REPORTED as a single "instance" of the problem.

Now, all you yahoo's that did this, CALL BACK at the 800 number below, DON'T ask for Jennifer, just discuss the issue with the rep and get your case and case # recorded in the system.

DON'T BE OVERLOOKED!! BE COUNTED!!

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Originally Posted by gpa7pk

Received a unsolicited call from Gara Pum, Nissan Customer Affairs, extension 41536, wanting to know if I had additional issues "Nissan" needed to know about as more messages, both voice and email, to Jennifer Irwin had been received using the file number I had opened last week - #6479687. I told him that I had placed the information on "The 370 Forum" and many 370Z owners as well as potential owners were disturbed by the design and safety flaw associated with very high engine oil temperatures especially with summer months still ahead of us. He said Nissan is aware of the problem and that an oil cooler kit, a Nissan Motorsports one, would be available in a few weeks. I asked if the cooler would be a recall item with full warrenty maintained - he wasn't sure, just that it would be available. He then mentioned they (Nissan) was "occasionally" monitoring the forum. I said great and then Nissan must have an idea of the scope of the problem and suggestions for a class action suit and letters to the NTSB were being considered if Nissan did not correctly resolve this serious issue. He asked that direct calls to Jennifer (x41622) not be made as she was terribly busy, but to use 1.800.647.7261. Whatever.

I hope they read SoCal's letter.

Keep those calls and emails coming.....

Musashi · 05-09-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeto

You don't think that 260 even with the oil cooler is excessive heat?

Peak 260.. I don't care as long as my revs aren't restricted. It cools very quickly, unlike stock. Get that cooler hooked up yet?

280z/300zx · 05-09-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Chuck

I have been on the fence between a 370 and a Vette. I have held off with this over heating issue for fear of getting a lemon. I am still in a holding pattern but if Nissan does not step up then I will not be purchasing the 370Z and will buy the Vette. I know the future of GM is in doubt however, the engine and tranny of the Vettes are sound and there will always be someone to work on the Vette. Again, I like the drive of the 370 but can't take the chance of a short lived engine or of my constant concern of what might happen. Will monitor the situation for a short while but if this is not resolved soon, I will not purchase the 370Z. For me, it is not about the money with this car or that but what is the most fun to drive.

I'm in a similar situation. The 370z is the car that I really want but this oil temp issue really has me holding back. I live in Vegas where driving in traffic when it's 115+ outside can be a reality. Even worse if I get caught in traffic going back to California while going through Baker where it can hit over 120+. It really sucks that this is becoming such a big issue. Sadly there aren't many other choices of cars to choose from. We already have an 06 Vette so I'm not sure getting a 2nd Vette is what I want. I kind of like the STI but I'm not 100% sold on the whole hatch thing, especially with only 305hp. Hopefully Nissan settles this issue soon so I can get a 370z. If not I guess I'll stick with my old Z's. I mean hell, my 77 280z may not be as fast but it won't over heat the engine either.

spearfish25 · 05-10-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

Spearfish... I'm too lazy to do the analysis, but here's all the raw data... as it turns out, country/state was captured by my survey software using the IP addresses... so if you want, you can actually compare region... not sure you need to though, because respondents actually included their hotest ambient temperature as part of the survey, which is the variable you're really trying to get at... would welcome anyone to slice/dice this

SurveyReport-1224538-5-8-2009.xls - FileFactory

PS I've got a "+1 rep" waiting for whoever analyzes this data !

I've posted a preliminary analysis in the Oil Temp Survey thread. Check it out here: Oil Temp Survey or the link below.

travisjb · 05-10-2009, 01:11 AM

Spearfish !! You're awesome ! +1 coming your way... would like to see some comparison of severity vs ambient temp and severity vs driving style

ChrisSlicks · 05-10-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I've posted a preliminary analysis in the Oil Temp Survey thread. Check it out here: Oil Temp Survey or the link below.

Looks good, but you've got the transmission type backwards on the first chart. The majority of respondents were MT not AT.

spearfish25 · 05-10-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Looks good, but you've got the transmission type backwards on the first chart. The majority of respondents were MT not AT.

No problem Travis and thanks for the heads up Chris. I've updated the original attachment to reflect the correction. Also had the bottom two charts flipped.

Two extra charts also included now to compare overheating severity with driving style and ambient temp.

Zeto · 05-10-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Musashi

Peak 260.. I don't care as long as my revs aren't restricted. It cools very quickly, unlike stock. Get that cooler hooked up yet?

I'm not even back in the States yet

Musashi · 05-10-2009, 03:50 PM

You'll be back before you know it. The install isn't bad at all if your mechanically inclined. I had a mechanic do it but thought it looked easy and I could of done it myself with a friend and some patience.

caneman88 · 05-10-2009, 04:43 PM

I filed with National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)

FILE A SAFETY COMPLAINT

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Description: Bought A 2009 Nissan 370Z and it has oil overheating issues and the car goes into shut down mode at high oil temps that could be real bad a highway speeds on the insterstate THIS IS A 370Z Model not a 350Z
Approximate Incident Date: 5/4/2009
Your responses to the questions regarding the incident:
Deaths/Injuries: No Property Damage: No
Crash: No
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VIN:2181
Year, Make, Model: 2009, NISSAN, 370Z
Failure Mileage: 3650
Speed: 70
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Name: Ron Rogers

tbonesteak · 05-11-2009, 03:34 AM

wow that's awesome. it's a numbers game from here on.

dalparadise · 05-11-2009, 04:49 AM

I'm ready to trade up to a 370Z, but all this talk of oil overheating is putting me into limp mode.

caneman88 · 05-11-2009, 11:59 AM

Take some Viagra and buy the Z they will fix this issue

ricer333 · 05-11-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Oppenheimer

Glad I decided to check out this thread... I figured it was a "track-only" problem until this thread got so long. Wanted to say thanks to all the guys chasing down this issue. I'm currently shopping and as yet, the 370 is the only car that has made me say "Wow, thats really cool" when I saw it. However since I'd probably be putting 15k / year on it and would want to keep it a long time, the oil temps getting that high during normal driving is somewhat troublesome.

I wanted to second this comment. I just test drove the 370z this past weekend. It is a very fun car to drive and is still my #1 pick for my new car. However, I really want to have some piece of mind that while I own this car in Florida, that the temps are not going to be an issue.

I'm currently going through cooling system problems on my current ride. Don't want to buy a $30,000+ sports car that constantly runs on the hot side!

Hope Nissan does something about this.

Just curious, but can I not have the dealership put a cooler on or no new car sale? Is that not really an option, even in these hard economic times???

05-10-2009, 04:43 PM	#446 (permalink)
caneman88 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 225 Drives: PG 370Z,M-35,F150 Rep Power: 16	I filed with National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) FILE A SAFETY COMPLAINT Form 100% complete. » » » SAFETY COMPLAINT CONFIRMATION Your Complaint Information is successfully submitted. Your Confirmation number (ODI Number) is: 10268325 Click on the "Print Complaint" button to see a print version of the confirmation page to print for your records. Acknowledgement An e-mail was sent to rr88@mac.com Complaint Information Description: Bought A 2009 Nissan 370Z and it has oil overheating issues and the car goes into shut down mode at high oil temps that could be real bad a highway speeds on the insterstate THIS IS A 370Z Model not a 350Z Approximate Incident Date: 5/4/2009 Your responses to the questions regarding the incident: Deaths/Injuries: No Property Damage: No Crash: No Fire: No Police Report: No top Vehicle Information VIN:2181 Year, Make, Model: 2009, NISSAN, 370Z Failure Mileage: 3650 Speed: 70 Vehicle Component Information Component 1: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING top Consumer Information Name: Ron Rogers Last edited by caneman88; 05-10-2009 at 04:47 PM. Reason: adding text

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