Originally Posted by Robert_Nash Issues that are only issues on the track are not Nissan's responsibility to resolve. They aren't only issues on the track. Part of our discussion discussed
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11-22-2009, 03:12 PM | #1066 (permalink) | |
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But for the common driver, it shouldn't happen. But it is "STILL" a problem as other cars in the past do not have issues like this on the track.
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I would have too. But in all fairness, Robert does have a point. The more different options and packages you have, the more expensive overall production is. That's part of the reason Nissan streamlined all the different trim lines they had for the 350 down to just two for the 370. Standardization means increased efficiency. (Didn't they have like four or five different trim lines for the 350 at one point?)
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i never followed the 350...so i couldnt tell ya what options were out there...
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Good call, kdo! It is, indeed!
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Sooooooo i'm s@#$ out of luck with my high oil temps is what i'm hearing, right? I would have paid for a track package just as i paid for the sport package but it wasn't offered. I have never been on the track and don't live in a hot climate yet my oil temp has been btween 240 and 260 at times. The dealership says "that's normal, the car should be fine, as long as it doesn't go in the red, nissan builds great engines. We haven't had any other complaints of oil temps" Yeah right pull this leg and it plays Jingle Bells. I love the car and willing to paying for a oil cooler but dont want to void the warranty. I bought this car to DRIVE it, if not i would've bought a cube. I change the(nissan recommended ester) oil approx. every 1500 miles what else can i do? So basically the sport package i paid for is for stopping quicker, better handling and looks because if i stay on the gas pedal the engine will melt! WTF!
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11-23-2009, 08:13 AM | #1072 (permalink) |
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Expensive overkill! No offense, but the name Ricky Bobby makes me think you drive really hard on the street......
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Whoa!!! Long time no see, bud!
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Okay, I made a poll. Enjoy.
Would you be willing to pay for an oil cooler as a factory-installed option?
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11-23-2009, 06:38 PM | #1077 (permalink) |
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my opinion
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I now have 16000 miles on my 370 and the highest the temps have been are 245. I have modded my car , gen3 intake , modded grill to let more air into intake and radiator , Headers , berk cats , FI exhaust , technosquare reflash , and many other small things to lighten and balance car better. I have also ordered the nismo rear diff cover and am installing a tranny and oil cooler. Do I wish the car already came this way ? Hell yes !! Most people will never drive there z as hard as I will on occaision and I will keep my car for longer than most and want to take the very best care of it I can ! I live in Fort Worth Texas and have driven in stop and go traffic at 100+ degree and in normal driving my oil Never gets over 215. When I got it to 245 I was racing a modded NSX for 25 min on closed course at speeds fro 50 to over 150 either braking hard or wide open , at 50 degrees outside temp. This is a sports car and driven agressively on the street will never need a oil cooler , BUT racing on the street or track , of course it needs one and all the other things that we feel our cars need to play like we want to play. Damn there are some whiners on here , but most of us are really enjoying our cars , and doing what we want to with them . This car is twice the car my 84 300z was and priced about the same (allowing for inflation). So my vote is either fix your car like you want it or shut the #### up and stop putting negative **** on this great website. I love all the info and ideas on here , LOVE the constructive stuff and amused by the complainers ! |
11-23-2009, 08:59 PM | #1080 (permalink) |
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Robert,
There are costs to Nissan that are not evident at their point of sale. In my case it is in the lack of future points of sale. Five laps on the track and I sold the Z and went back to Porsche. There won't be any more Nissan products in my garage. The big question I still have, and everyone on here should as well, is why did Nissan put oil and diff. coolers on cars and then put them in the hands of journalists on the very thing they say they have no responsibility for? The track!!! Robert, why don't you ask corporate why they did that and get back to us with their response.
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