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I'm sure Porsche is actually going to lose some business because of the new 370Z. There would also be much less people in the market for a used Porsche as well which would help lower the price tag. How funny is that to think that Nissan could create something that would cause some Porsche roadsters to depreciate a little more than they would have.
I highly doubt that Porsche is going to lose any customers. If you can afford one then you will get one, beside the US is only a very small fraction of their sales. Most buy Porsche for the status of it and not for a super fast car. Different demographics there.
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What the hell are you talking about? Can you not read? Nissan's doing NOTHING. This is all on your dime if you chose to pursue this route.
Wow you got me all wrong. I never said that Nissan would be PAYING for the oil cooler. All I said is that Nissan will provide the part for those who want to pursue that route.

You just misunderstood me. That's all.

Once again. There is nothing wrong with the original design. But for those who want more performance out of their Z, an aftermarket item is available through Nissan.

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Wow you got me all wrong. I never said that Nissan would be PAYING for the oil cooler. All I said is that Nissan will provide the part for those who want to pursue that route.

You just misunderstood me. That's all.

Once again. There is nothing wrong with the original design. But for those who want more performance out of their Z, an aftermarket item is available through Nissan.
Dude, do you even have a Z? Aren't you the guy that won't go over 80? What you need an oil cooler for?
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Dude, do you even have a Z? Aren't you the guy that won't go over 80? What you need an oil cooler for?
That's him....... baseball has Mr. 3000 , we have "Mr.< 80"
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I highly doubt that Porsche is going to lose any customers. If you can afford one then you will get one, beside the US is only a very small fraction of their sales. Most buy Porsche for the status of it and not for a super fast car. Different demographics there.
Maybe not new Porsches, but I can say that a used Cayman was on my radar. I tested one, loved it, but could not get around the look of it. So I bought a new Z and saved money too.

Agree about the status aspect, at least around these parts. My dentist has a leased 911 Turbo. She confessed she does not drive it all that hard except when she accelerates onto the freeway .
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Wow you got me all wrong. I never said that Nissan would be PAYING for the oil cooler. All I said is that Nissan will provide the part for those who want to pursue that route.

You just misunderstood me. That's all.

Once again. There is nothing wrong with the original design. But for those who want more performance out of their Z, an aftermarket item is available through Nissan.
Avi, gratz on making it out of the basement and into positive rep territory.

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Guys, it seems to me that avitech is trying to make a positive contribution after an admittedly lackluster start to his membership on this forum. Human nature being what it is, I understand the urge to just pile on him whenever he posts something. But maybe we should try to give him a break? I mean, if he's trying to turn a new leaf, we could have a little generosity of spirit and meet him halfway by giving him a second chance. Just a thought.
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after he calls members trolls...

honestly woild you feel the same way if he called you a troll...
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I highly doubt that Porsche is going to lose any customers. If you can afford one then you will get one, beside the US is only a very small fraction of their sales. Most buy Porsche for the status of it and not for a super fast car. Different demographics there.
Well, maybe not any... But probably not very many.
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r u srs...

after he calls members trolls...

honestly woild you feel the same way if he called you a troll...
No, I probably wouldn't. But I don't think he was unprovoked either, and that's why I'm saying let's try to meet him halfway. Let's look at what happened. After I posted Nissan's official position, he made a post expressing his relief that Nissan would be 'taking some action'. Modshack said what the heck are you talking about, Nissan isn't paying for anything, and avitech clarified that he wasn't trying to say that Nissan is paying for anything -- only that they've provided a part number, and it is for that which he is grateful. Okay, everything's constructive and civil to this point. No name calling, no insults. But then Ricky Bobby comes along and says 'Hey do you even have a Z? Aren't you the guy who won't go over 80? You don't need an oil cooler!' (I'm paraphrasing.) That's when it goes downhill, with Antennahead poking fun by giving him the "Mr. < 80" name. So then avitech gets defensive and stands up for himself by calling him a troll. Now, to be clear, I'm not saying I agree with him calling Antennahead a troll. I'm just trying to recognize that he (avitech) was trying to behave when someone dredged up his past posts to make fun of him. This is what I mean by cutting him some slack. Has he said some dumb crap in the past? Sure. But let's leave the past in the past. Let's not dredge it up every time he tries to start over and post something civil in a thread.

But hey, take everything I'm saying with a grain of salt, cuz I'm loaded up on hydrocodone today after my surgery yesterday.
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Guys, it seems to me that avitech is trying to make a positive contribution after an admittedly lackluster start to his membership on this forum. Human nature being what it is, I understand the urge to just pile on him whenever he posts something. But maybe we should try to give him a break? I mean, if he's trying to turn a new leaf, we could have a little generosity of spirit and meet him halfway by giving him a second chance. Just a thought.
While I would agree with your post, it's comments like this " Once again. There is nothing wrong with the original design" ........ when he doesn't even own the car, that make people shake their head Which college of auto engineering did he graduate from?
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No, I probably wouldn't. But I don't think he was unprovoked either, and that's why I'm saying let's try to meet him halfway. Let's look at what happened. After I posted Nissan's official position, he made a post expressing his relief that Nissan would be 'taking some action'. Modshack said what the heck are you talking about, Nissan isn't paying for anything, and avitech clarified that he wasn't trying to say that Nissan is paying for anything -- only that they've provided a part number, and it is for that which he is grateful. Okay, everything's constructive and civil to this point. No name calling, no insults. But then Ricky Bobby comes along and says 'Hey do you even have a Z? Aren't you the guy who won't go over 80? You don't need an oil cooler!' (I'm paraphrasing.) That's when it goes downhill, with Antennahead poking fun by giving him the "Mr. < 80" name. So then avitech gets defensive and stands up for himself by calling him a troll. Now, to be clear, I'm not saying I agree with him calling Antennahead a troll. I'm just trying to recognize that he (avitech) was trying to behave when someone dredged up his past posts to make fun of him. This is what I mean by cutting him some slack. Has he said some dumb crap in the past? Sure. But let's leave the past in the past. Let's not dredge it up every time he tries to start over and post something civil in a thread.

But hey, take everything I'm saying with a grain of salt, cuz I'm loaded up on hydrocodone today after my surgery yesterday.


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No, I probably wouldn't. But I don't think he was unprovoked either, and that's why I'm saying let's try to meet him halfway. Let's look at what happened. After I posted Nissan's official position, he made a post expressing his relief that Nissan would be 'taking some action'. Modshack said what the heck are you talking about, Nissan isn't paying for anything, and avitech clarified that he wasn't trying to say that Nissan is paying for anything -- only that they've provided a part number, and it is for that which he is grateful. Okay, everything's constructive and civil to this point. No name calling, no insults. But then Ricky Bobby comes along and says 'Hey do you even have a Z? Aren't you the guy who won't go over 80? You don't need an oil cooler!' (I'm paraphrasing.) That's when it goes downhill, with Antennahead poking fun by giving him the "Mr. < 80" name. So then avitech gets defensive and stands up for himself by calling him a troll. Now, to be clear, I'm not saying I agree with him calling Antennahead a troll. I'm just trying to recognize that he (avitech) was trying to behave when someone dredged up his past posts to make fun of him. This is what I mean by cutting him some slack. Has he said some dumb crap in the past? Sure. But let's leave the past in the past. Let's not dredge it up every time he tries to start over and post something civil in a thread.

But hey, take everything I'm saying with a grain of salt, cuz I'm loaded up on hydrocodone today after my surgery yesterday.
Well thank you so much for seeing things with an unbiased point of view. I believe Antennahead is still holding a grudge because of my comments I said earlier about his/her hometown. In any case if he/she is listening. It must of sounded worse than it was. I was not putting down the "South" if you will. As a matter of fact I happen to appreciate the South a great deal because it's a nice contrast to California. Atlanta is known to have the best residential housing in the country if not all of the Americas thanks to it's generous attitude toward land use. I have been there. I have seen the South. I was merely making a point about what I have seen in Charleston in particular during one of my journeys over there. I noticed that it had a 3 or 5 story parking garage without a single elevator and all the handicap spaces were at the ground level. When I said these things I wasn't being hypercritical about the south, I was merely being descriptive in order to show to Antennaehead that I have actually been to his hometown.

For example if I were to say that I had a Red Apple. Notice I didn't use any negative adjectives in order to describe the item? It was just pure descriptive.

If I had offended anyone in this whole newsgroup then you have my sincere apologies. Upsetting and or insulting anyone is not and never was my intention.

It's just that wen I hear about other people breaking traffic laws and doing things on the public access roads that are unsafe for the general public at large then I tend to want to encourage safe driving practices.

If you want to drive faster than 80, sure you can. You can do so all day if you want. All I ask is you just do it the legal way by going to a closed race track or by driving in a dry lake bed where it is safe and there are no cars, people, or animals in the way. Aside from that, if you want to travel at higher speeds to get from point A to point B then it's better to try the Autobahn with no speed restrictions. Or better yet, learn how to fly a single engine aircraft.

But driving >100mph on any limited access highway in North America is both illegal and highly not advised or encouraged. Unless of course that stretch of highway is closed down just for racing.

I'm just worried for myself and my friends who have to share the road with speeders who don't respect life.

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Well thank you so much for seeing things with an unbiased point of view. I believe Antennahead is still holding a grudge because of my comments I said earlier about his/her hometown. In any case if he/she is listening. It must of sounded worse than it was. I was not putting down the "South" if you will. As a matter of fact I happen to appreciate the South a great deal because it's a nice contrast to California. Atlanta is known to have the best residential housing in the country if not all of the Americas thanks to it's generous attitude toward land use. I have been there. I have seen the South. I was merely making a point about what I have seen in Charleston in particular during one of my journeys over there. I noticed that it had a 3 or 5 story parking garage without a single elevator and all the handicap spaces were at the ground level. When I said these things I wasn't being hypercritical about the south, I was merely being descriptive in order to show to Antennaehead that I have actually been to his hometown.

For example if I were to say that I had a Red Apple. Notice I didn't use any negative adjectives in order to describe the item? It was just pure descriptive.

If I had offended anyone in this whole newsgroup then you have my sincere apologies. Upsetting and or insulting anyone is not and never was my intention.

It's just that wen I hear about other people breaking traffic laws and doing things on the public access roads that are unsafe for the general public at large then I tend to want to encourage safe driving practices.

If you want to drive faster than 80, sure you can. You can do so all day if you want. All I ask is you just do it the legal way by going to a closed race track or by driving in a dry lake bed where it is safe and there are no cars, people, or animals in the way. Aside from that, if you want to travel at higher speeds to get from point A to point B then it's better to try the Autobahn with no speed restrictions. Or better yet, learn how to fly a single engine aircraft.

But driving >100mph on any limited access highway in North America is both illegal and highly not advised or encouraged. Unless of course that stretch of highway is closed down just for racing.

I'm just worried for myself and my friends who have to share the road with speeders who don't respect life.

It came across as very condescending. Charleston has actually won the most friendly city in America so many times, that Conde Nast retired us from the competition. The reason the handicapped parking spaces are on the ground level is to make it easier for a handicapped person to manuver. The top level does not have elevator service on some of the older garages, that were built before certain code restrictions applied. By increasing the number of handicapped spaces on the first level however, we were making it easier for a handicapped person to park. I believe there are more than enough to pass code taking into account that the top level has no elevator service.

I do not favor excessive speed on public highways. That said, we have stretches of interstate in the south with a posted limit of 75MPH. People regularly drive close to 85 MPH on them. Assuming the vehicle is in good mechanical condition and tires are fine, there is little danger in that, assuming no racing is going on.
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