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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ The Z period was meant to go after Porsche on design and performance. Whoever says it didn't needs to look up the history of the Z.

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Old 11-27-2009, 08:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Z period was meant to go after Porsche on design and performance. Whoever says it didn't needs to look up the history of the Z.
It was designed to go after the Cayman. It succeeded. Nissan has a storied history of attacking (and defeating) Porsche on the track. And with the GT-R now taking the crown from the Porsche GT3, Nissan is attacking on two fronts.

Why not go after them on the street?

AK, please close this thread. LOL, it is O/T to the max.
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It was designed to go after the Cayman. It succeeded. Nissan has a storied history of attacking (and defeating) Porsche on the track. And with the GT-R now taking the crown from the Porsche GT3, Nissan is attacking on two fronts.

Why not go after them on the street?

AK, please close this thread. LOL, it is O/T to the max.
I'm sure Porsche is actually going to lose some business because of the new 370Z. There would also be much less people in the market for a used Porsche as well which would help lower the price tag. How funny is that to think that Nissan could create something that would cause some Porsche roadsters to depreciate a little more than they would have.
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I'm sure Porsche is actually going to lose some business because of the new 370Z. There would also be much less people in the market for a used Porsche as well which would help lower the price tag. How funny is that to think that Nissan could create something that would cause some Porsche roadsters to depreciate a little more than they would have.
I highly doubt that Porsche is going to lose any customers. If you can afford one then you will get one, beside the US is only a very small fraction of their sales. Most buy Porsche for the status of it and not for a super fast car. Different demographics there.
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I highly doubt that Porsche is going to lose any customers. If you can afford one then you will get one, beside the US is only a very small fraction of their sales. Most buy Porsche for the status of it and not for a super fast car. Different demographics there.
Maybe not new Porsches, but I can say that a used Cayman was on my radar. I tested one, loved it, but could not get around the look of it. So I bought a new Z and saved money too.

Agree about the status aspect, at least around these parts. My dentist has a leased 911 Turbo. She confessed she does not drive it all that hard except when she accelerates onto the freeway .
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I highly doubt that Porsche is going to lose any customers. If you can afford one then you will get one, beside the US is only a very small fraction of their sales. Most buy Porsche for the status of it and not for a super fast car. Different demographics there.
Well, maybe not any... But probably not very many.
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370ZSteve,

This is a previous post I made on modding a Z in response to 5th gear's article on the Z vs Cayman. Read it and see my already stated position on the Z with mods.

And for modding a Z, I've been there and done it years ago. I waited until one day after my warranty expired to pull the engine on my 280Z and do a Scarab conversion. Look up the Scarab.

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I just traded my 370Z sports/touring/MT last week for an '08' Cayman S. I got a great deal on the S and a good price for my Z.

I haven't had the opportunity to take out the S yet for a good run but it is a nice car. The sound of the engine behind your head negates the desire to turn on the radio. The engine is extremely smooth all the way to the red line. True it's a little smoother over the bumps but mine is on 18" rubber, for now.

If you shop around there are leftover new '08' S models for $47000 with little to no options. So, it might only be a $10k stretch from a loaded MT 370Z to the '08' Cayman S. Of course you'd need to add an additional $1500 for a limited slip in the Cayman S. Three years post purchase you might get half of that delta back in resale value.

On the other hand there's a lot to be said for taking a 370Z with the extra $10k and seeing what pops out the other side.
Robert, keep up the PR. If you worked for Yugo you'd no doubt have two in the garage.

As to pity. In today's economy anyone willing to spend $36K on a Z has to be a car enthusiast. I don't pity anyone in that category. We share a common passion.

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370ZSteve,

This is a previous post I made on modding a Z in response to 5th gear's article on the Z vs Cayman. Read it and see my already stated position on the Z with mods.

And for modding a Z, I've been there and done it years ago. I waited until one day after my warranty expired to pull the engine on my 280Z and do a Scarab conversion. Look up the Scarab.



Robert, keep up the PR. If you worked for Yugo you'd no doubt have two in the garage.

As to pity. In today's economy anyone willing to spend $36K on a Z has to be a car enthusiast. I don't pity anyone in that category. We share a common passion.

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Alan, I find you a condescending fop. Can't figure out your obsession with Robert nor your obsession with a forum for a car you dislike. very odd.
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Alan, I find you a condescending fop.
This is about what I was told to expect from you. You're like a cat jumping for a reflection on a wall. Just keeps banging the wall with nothing to show for the effort.

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Robert played down the oil issue early on while posting to the contrary in another thread. You can't have it both ways at the same time.

AK370, I won't post again.
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...Robert played down the oil issue early on while posting to the contrary in another thread. You can't have it both ways at the same time.
I believe I explained my position then and now quite well in my opinion; sorry if that wasn't sufficient for you.

Perhaps you should look up ALL my posts on this issue before you start labeling me a liar (albeit in an indirect way). If you had bothered to look up my posts you would find that the only thing that has really changed were that my earlier concerns were replaced by (at this point) nine months and nearly 17,000 miles of real-world experience which has shown me this "problem" isn't really much of a problem at all except for a few.

I can't help but find it odd that you sold your 370 and have since, if I understood your earlier posts correctly, bought not one but two different Cayman's all for the sake of a $800-$1,000 oil cooler not being on the 370 from the factory...around here, spending the kind of money you've spent all for the sake of $1K oil cooler is what we call trying to make your point the hard (or at least the expensive) way.
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yea i agree i went to nissan yesterday and was complaining too the square bear that was taking care of my issue. Basically if they dont own the actual car, they think its because of the owners "drivability issue". They hooked it up too the computer and couldnt find any stored codes and they know the cars never been in limp mode.so be careful too not dog yours z's out too hard or some codes will store and they will try to void your warranty if something happens because of high oil temps.
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HAS ANYONE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY A REMEDY (VIA NISSAN) - THIS IS REALLY PISSING ME OFF - NOT SURE WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT...ANY ASSISTANCE WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

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Remedy for what?

If you're tracking, put on a cooler per Nissans Rec's. If a street car, the potential of hitting limp (280 degrees) is pretty slim so you don't really have a problem. If it's just a matter of you not liking the temps, then put on a cooler. Nissan says it's OK..
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