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Yes I've read that one before. I especially love the last part, which is why I've held off installing a cooler for so long. Let me translate for you. You
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Yes I've read that one before. I especially love the last part, which is why I've held off installing a cooler for so long.
Let me translate for you. You only need an oil cooler if you go to the track. If you go to the track and we find out about it we can, at our discretion, void your factory warranty. We will take the fact that you have installed an oil cooler as evidence that you are driving on the track. Sure, Porsche engines might blow up more frequently than the Nissan engines, but at least they replace them no questions asked during the warranty period. Any time I've taken my car in to the dealer for any reason they have gone over the car inspecting for any evidence that the car has been on track. I am now very paranoid of that fact and will not be visiting a dealer again for that reason. If anything does break it will be a major pain having to remove all performance parts before bringing it in. |
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I was as concerned as anyone reading all the doom and gloom posts (such as are in this thread). Early in my coupe's life the oil temps were reaching into the 250's with hard driving (notably on the Dragon and the Cherohala Skyway). But, it never got much above that and I never went into limp mode. Even with hard autocrossing; and hard runs on the Dragon, the Hellbender, the Skyway and the Devil's Triangle (to name a few) and a several thousand mile trip down Route 66 through 100+ degree days and southwestern desert and into Las Vegas I never encountered a problem with the oil temps and with using the Ester oil (as I've done without fail) and as the miles have added the temps have even dropped from the highest I've experienced. My discussion with my mechanic friend, who I've mentioned before, also said there was a non-issue unless tracking the car. When he talks about Nissans I listen - not only has he been building and racing Nissans for 30+ years but his shop is the shop Nissan uses to maintain the heritage collection...Nissan trusts him and so do I. I'd love to see the factory add an oil and/or transmission cooler; at least as an option but I doubt if more than 5% of the people who buy a 370 would ever actually need the option and I suspect that anyone routinely tracking their car would still need to add a larger oil cooler even if the factory supplied one so the option likely wouldn't even benefit those who probably most need it meaning it would be a wast of Nissan's money to do the tooling and design changes necessary to even offer it (and if they put them on every 370 then everyone would actually wind up paying for something they likely don't even need). With that said, my questions to you are why are you still "here" and still, apparently, upset about this (at least upset enough to keep posting in this thread)? I'm not suggesting you can't or shouldnt' be here - obviously you have as much right as anyone to be here but I don't see the point unless you just want to bash the 370. Why don't you just go out and enjoy your new Porsche and let us enjoy or Z's. P.S. For anyone not familiar withe the Dragon, Devil's Triangle, etc. I mentioned above; just google "The Tail Of The Dragon" and you'll pull up a ton of information about these roads/routes...truly some of the most beautiful and challenging pieces of asphalt anywhere in the world.
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And Nissan would never encourage such illegal driving.
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Bottom line out of the box the Cayman S beats the 370Z. Yes it costs more to do that. However, while at the track there have been far too many Z's sitting on hot days watching the Caymans roll onto the track. I'd suggest you (A) go out in a stock 09 Cayman S on track and do a back to back run in (B) a stock 370Z. Find a cool day and track so you can complete part B if you haven't added your oil cooler. For my 370Z track experience on the one and only weekend at the track I was able to get 5 laps before the oil went north. So, $36000/5 laps for the weekend = $7200/lap or $72000/110 laps for the weekend = $654/lap. That's an order of magnitude cheaper on the first weekend. You know what they say about first impressions. ![]() I haven't had anyone from Porsche telling me not to use my launch control nor have they reprogrammed it. And as I've said before under 'choice' I think the GTR is just plain ugly. Others find the Cayman ugly and I personally have no affinity towards the Panamera. The 370Z continues to be a good bang for the buck. And from there you can go both ways. As to why I continue to post here I feel the $36000 Nissan entry fee should allow me to write all I want. Edit: This is in no way intended to offend any of the many people on this forum with whom I have had numerous and meaningful conversations!
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Compare a GT-R to a Cayman S if you want serious discussion. Of course you will have to deal with people laughing at you. Personaly, I find Mr Nash's purchase of both a coupe and roadster Z to be a much more intelligent choice than your overpriced, hideously ugly piece of Teutonic trash. Imagine, 2 high performance sports cars for the price of one. Heh heh. As for the GT-R, I once wondered what all the excitement was. Now of course I know. As for it's looks, I hated it. But man it's grown on me. After spending time in dealerships lately, I've had a lot of opportunity to look the car over. I find it the most aggressively beautiful auto I've seen in years. Now, back to the Porsche forum - you can talk with all the periodontists about how awesome the Cayman is. ![]() Now back to this overused, tired, beaten-to-death, useless thread. ![]()
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oh boy, let's be realistic here. I know you just bought a 370z so now it's the greatest car in the world but come on. I would love to know what these "few thousand dollar in mods" are that turn the 370z into a cayman S eater.
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Besides, the Cayman..it's..ugly. It's a 911 gone horribly wrong. You won't find many who could say that about a 370Z - with any conviction.
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In other words, you want to throw a pity party - that seems a bit childish to me.
Further, while I have a lot of respect for Porsche as a nameplate, I would have saved $10K or so and bought a 'Vette (and used some of the money I saved for better seats). ![]()
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"Want....Need....Same Difference". Yeah that's about right.
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