Everyone with oil temp issues

antennahead · 08-29-2009, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutoX Z

Is there any way we can unsticky this thread now that the people who originally posted this issue have had their cars break in and now it no longer happens? I feel having this posted at the top just causes new owners to panic.

Maybe just having a single post thread that sums up what everyone has discovered:

1. Temps may be high during the initial thousand miles but will decrease as the engine breaks in.

2. On a properly broken in car you will not hit limp mode during street driving.

3. If you track your car you will need to install an oil cooler. If you only plan on autoxing this is unneccesary.

4. And then Nissan's official statement on the matter.

Just a suggestion so we don't have to keep going over this again and again every time someone new joins the board and doesn't want to read though all 60 pages.

I agree with you on this, with the caveat that some of us want the added protection and lower running temps a cooler provides, as stated in my previous post. But that scenerio is different than the sky is falling, and as you state, this causes new or prospective owners to panic first, before reading all the dialogue that exists on the subject.

John

ZForce · 08-29-2009, 05:38 PM

^John, I agree and also want the added protection over the long haul, hence an oil cooler for street use. No harm with a little more engine protection. I and you can relate to this having come from the oil consumption 06 Rev-Ups. So if I tend to be more pro-active its because I have had the last 1.5 yrs experience beating up Nissan over an oil consuming 06 Rev-Up.

As far this thread is concerned, I am for leaving it stickied and keep the discussions going. 62 pages ....Ha...that's nothing to the 200+ pages on the oil consumption thread (OC). I would suggest doing what we did over on the OC thread, which is have the OP update the first page with the current findings on the oil temp issue. Therefore newbs would see the point that has become after 62 pages. But to unsticky it....not...it's too important, you do that and a newb will just open up a new thread, then wadda have? ten gazillion threads of everybody saying the same-o-same-o.

.05 cents...now off the soap box.

If any is interested in the general format, here is what is working on the oil consumption thread as far as updates and a REVISED first post.
MY350Z.COM Forums - View Single Post - RevUp Oil Consumption TSB and discussion

Cheers
Curtis

AutoX Z · 08-29-2009, 08:03 PM

I'm not saying remove any type of stickied information regarding oil temperature. I just don't really see the point of this thread continuing the way it has been for the past while with it dying until someone new joins and then causing a few members who haven't been that worried to panic.

You could apply what I was talking about early with what you suggested. Keep the first reply of the thread updated with everything that's been found out. My suggestion was to just start a new thread, make it have one reply that contains all relevant information, sticky it and lock it. New people can then read the post and not have to freak out and worry other members in the process.

ZForce · 08-30-2009, 12:30 AM

I like that idea, go for it, unless anyone else has any objections.

NIZMOZ · 09-06-2009, 11:29 AM

Just got back last night from a 320~ mile cruise through the hill country at high pace. I tried to get my car to get hot (4-6k rpm long holds), but the hottest it saw was 210 oil temps. Water stayed below 190 as well.

Track event is next weekend which will be the real test.

NIZMOZ · 09-12-2009, 10:46 PM

Made it to the track finally. Outside temps around 80. My Water never got above 210 degrees but my oil temps did hit 250 degrees. But didn't go higher. I was keeping it in 3rd gear most of the track near redline.

travisjb · 09-12-2009, 10:55 PM

I'm now running a dual-core oil cooler that was custom prepared by Redline Motorsports in Tempe, AZ... using Motul 300v 10-40 and the car is well broken in... Ran today in 110F ambient at Phoenix International Raceway... never got above 250F! I'm now satisfied that my oil temp issues are behind me...

Generally agree with the takeways a few posts ago...

any track 370z needs a cooler...
for hotter climates, consider dual core or oversized core... the single core offers from stillen and others were inadequate
as for autocross, not sure... but makes sense you don't need one for these kinds of short runs
road going Z's probably don't need one unless you drive aggressively and are in warmer climate...
finally, nissan screwed the pooch

DooDooBrown · 09-13-2009, 07:35 PM

Wow, all this discussion. I live in West Virgina, and took the Z out today on some country back roads... Drove lively, not insane. Notice the oil temp went up to about 250 or so, the hottest I have seen it climb. The car turned 1700 miles on that drive. The Z is my daily driver, and I commute 120 miles, all highway. The most I see it climb to is 220...
The dealership I purchased it from has a "powertrain for life" deal going on. For the life of your car, the dealership will guarantee your engine. If it dies, and you have gone to them every time for an oil change, they replace your engine. For this reason (I am not really planning on tracking the car), I am not that concerned about the oil temp issue!

alan93rsa · 09-15-2009, 07:39 PM

Travis,

Glad to hear the dual cooler is working for you.

Jamdun17 · 09-22-2009, 08:32 PM

Hi, i am new to this forum, and currently run a 1995 M3 which i was considering selling to get this car over the 135i, with all the oil & diff issues it is making me think twice about getting one, i am an avid track and autocross driver and love spirited driving when i get the oppotunity, now my car has 125,000 miles on it and hasent had a problem yet even after multiple HPDE events and even more autox, now is this something i should be severly worried about being a resident of florida, or is there anything i can do to help speed up the process and get on nissan to provide factory cooler. i understand i can buy an aftermarket one but i believe a car should do what it is advertised to do.

antennahead · 09-22-2009, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamdun17

Hi, i am new to this forum, and currently run a 1995 M3 which i was considering selling to get this car over the 135i, with all the oil & diff issues it is making me think twice about getting one, i am an avid track and autocross driver and love spirited driving when i get the oppotunity, now my car has 125,000 miles on it and hasent had a problem yet even after multiple HPDE events and even more autox, now is this something i should be severly worried about being a resident of florida, or is there anything i can do to help speed up the process and get on nissan to provide factory cooler. i understand i can buy an aftermarket one but i believe a car should do what it is advertised to do.

At this point there is no cooler, and the 2010 has no cooler. Someone posted a pic of the 2010 Nismo, and a cooler was spoted behind the grill. That led to speculation, will the 2010 Nismo have a cooler? Was that just there for the magazines to test drive, as the early cars for 2009 had for the journalists? Who knows at this point.

I love my Z. If I lived in Florida and tracked/auto crossed the car, I would buy one and add an aftermarket cooler, problem solved. I live in SC, and it gets very hot here in the summer. Next spring, I will probably add a cooler and I don't track my car. I never hit limp mode, but I can hit 250 degrees with spirited driving and stop and go traffic. I will feel more comfortable with the longevity of the engine if I add one. I would not let this stop you from buying the car, it is a great machine!

John

Jamdun17 · 09-24-2009, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antennahead

At this point there is no cooler, and the 2010 has no cooler. Someone posted a pic of the 2010 Nismo, and a cooler was spoted behind the grill. That led to speculation, will the 2010 Nismo have a cooler? Was that just there for the magazines to test drive, as the early cars for 2009 had for the journalists? Who knows at this point.

I love my Z. If I lived in Florida and tracked/auto crossed the car, I would buy one and add an aftermarket cooler, problem solved. I live in SC, and it gets very hot here in the summer. Next spring, I will probably add a cooler and I don't track my car. I never hit limp mode, but I can hit 250 degrees with spirited driving and stop and go traffic. I will feel more comfortable with the longevity of the engine if I add one. I would not let this stop you from buying the car, it is a great machine!

John

250 degrees with just spirted driving is pretty high, and with some track temps here reaching into the 90's the size of the oil cooler would prob have to be massive to cope with the added temps.

Has any of the aftermarket guys come up with a larger oil pan that dissipates heat better then stock ?

semtex · 09-24-2009, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamdun17

250 degrees with just spirted driving is pretty high, and with some track temps here reaching into the 90's the size of the oil cooler would prob have to be massive to cope with the added temps.

Has any of the aftermarket guys come up with a larger oil pan that dissipates heat better then stock ?

DIY: Oil Pan Spacer

Jamdun17 · 09-26-2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

DIY: Oil Pan Spacer

Nice glad someone thought about it, its to bad it leaves the oil pan hanging down though but thats to be expected, anything about the diff like a finned differential cover that adds capacity as well?
Thanks

ZeeRay · 09-23-2009, 12:57 AM

Haven't read this whole string, but mine is late year and has an oil cooler stock. Touring edition only, no sport or Nismo.

09-06-2009, 11:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	Just got back last night from a 320~ mile cruise through the hill country at high pace. I tried to get my car to get hot (4-6k rpm long holds), but the hottest it saw was 210 oil temps. Water stayed below 190 as well. Track event is next weekend which will be the real test. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

09-12-2009, 10:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	Made it to the track finally. Outside temps around 80. My Water never got above 210 degrees but my oil temps did hit 250 degrees. But didn't go higher. I was keeping it in 3rd gear most of the track near redline. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

09-12-2009, 10:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	I'm now running a dual-core oil cooler that was custom prepared by Redline Motorsports in Tempe, AZ... using Motul 300v 10-40 and the car is well broken in... Ran today in 110F ambient at Phoenix International Raceway... never got above 250F! I'm now satisfied that my oil temp issues are behind me... Generally agree with the takeways a few posts ago... any track 370z needs a cooler... for hotter climates, consider dual core or oversized core... the single core offers from stillen and others were inadequate as for autocross, not sure... but makes sense you don't need one for these kinds of short runs road going Z's probably don't need one unless you drive aggressively and are in warmer climate... finally, nissan screwed the pooch __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

09-15-2009, 07:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 221	Travis, Glad to hear the dual cooler is working for you. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

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08-29-2009, 05:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
ZForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,359 Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport Rep Power: 21	^John, I agree and also want the added protection over the long haul, hence an oil cooler for street use. No harm with a little more engine protection. I and you can relate to this having come from the oil consumption 06 Rev-Ups. So if I tend to be more pro-active its because I have had the last 1.5 yrs experience beating up Nissan over an oil consuming 06 Rev-Up. As far this thread is concerned, I am for leaving it stickied and keep the discussions going. 62 pages ....Ha...that's nothing to the 200+ pages on the oil consumption thread (OC). I would suggest doing what we did over on the OC thread, which is have the OP update the first page with the current findings on the oil temp issue. Therefore newbs would see the point that has become after 62 pages. But to unsticky it....not...it's too important, you do that and a newb will just open up a new thread, then wadda have? ten gazillion threads of everybody saying the same-o-same-o. .05 cents...now off the soap box. If any is interested in the general format, here is what is working on the oil consumption thread as far as updates and a REVISED first post. MY350Z.COM Forums - View Single Post - RevUp Oil Consumption TSB and discussion Cheers Curtis

08-29-2009, 08:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
AutoX Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 314 Drives: 370Z Base, Sport Rep Power: 16	I'm not saying remove any type of stickied information regarding oil temperature. I just don't really see the point of this thread continuing the way it has been for the past while with it dying until someone new joins and then causing a few members who haven't been that worried to panic. You could apply what I was talking about early with what you suggested. Keep the first reply of the thread updated with everything that's been found out. My suggestion was to just start a new thread, make it have one reply that contains all relevant information, sticky it and lock it. New people can then read the post and not have to freak out and worry other members in the process.

08-30-2009, 12:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
ZForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,359 Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport Rep Power: 21	I like that idea, go for it, unless anyone else has any objections.

09-13-2009, 07:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
DooDooBrown Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ranson, WV Posts: 178 Drives: 09 370 Touring w/spt Rep Power: 16	Wow, all this discussion. I live in West Virgina, and took the Z out today on some country back roads... Drove lively, not insane. Notice the oil temp went up to about 250 or so, the hottest I have seen it climb. The car turned 1700 miles on that drive. The Z is my daily driver, and I commute 120 miles, all highway. The most I see it climb to is 220... The dealership I purchased it from has a "powertrain for life" deal going on. For the life of your car, the dealership will guarantee your engine. If it dies, and you have gone to them every time for an oil change, they replace your engine. For this reason (I am not really planning on tracking the car), I am not that concerned about the oil temp issue!

09-22-2009, 08:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jamdun17 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Coral Springs Posts: 9 Drives: 95 BMW M3 Rep Power: 16	Hi, i am new to this forum, and currently run a 1995 M3 which i was considering selling to get this car over the 135i, with all the oil & diff issues it is making me think twice about getting one, i am an avid track and autocross driver and love spirited driving when i get the oppotunity, now my car has 125,000 miles on it and hasent had a problem yet even after multiple HPDE events and even more autox, now is this something i should be severly worried about being a resident of florida, or is there anything i can do to help speed up the process and get on nissan to provide factory cooler. i understand i can buy an aftermarket one but i believe a car should do what it is advertised to do.

09-23-2009, 12:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
ZeeRay Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lawton, Ok Posts: 51 Drives: 370Z and a Corvette Rep Power: 16	Haven't read this whole string, but mine is late year and has an oil cooler stock. Touring edition only, no sport or Nismo.