Everyone with oil temp issues

370Zsteve · 11-17-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

On what basis do you make this statement? Do you have some official statistics or something showing that, say, for every 100 Zs, a greater number of them have moving violations and accidents compared to any other make/model on the road?

The guy drives an 82 Mercedes diesel. He gets ticketed constantly for driving too slowly, warnings for contributing more to global warming than Exxon-Mobil, chicks won't date him and he's pissed.

Modshack · 11-17-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

On what basis do you make this statement? Do you have some official statistics or something showing that, say, for every 100 Zs, a greater number of them have moving violations and accidents compared to any other make/model on the road?

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

The guy drives an 82 Mercedes diesel. He gets ticketed constantly for driving too slowly, warnings for contributing more to global warming than Exxon-Mobil, chicks won't date him and he's pissed.

I suspect it's the rating category. My insurance went up substantially when I moved from the Vette to the Z, but everyone knows it's old men that drive them and rarely put them in harms way. Hardly the case with many here and their Z's.......

avitech · 11-18-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

The guy drives an 82 Mercedes diesel. He gets ticketed constantly for driving too slowly, warnings for contributing more to global warming than Exxon-Mobil, chicks won't date him and he's pissed.

Well that's a huge assumption that you just made about somebody whom you had never met before and whom you know absolutely nothing about.

This newsgroup is for discussing how much we love the new 370Z. It wasn't created to give anybody a hard time.

ricky bobby · 11-17-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech

Believe it or not, I'm very very picky when it comes to cars and for some reason this oil temperature issue doesn't even bother me. It's nice to have reminders from Nissan about how fast you are driving a car. The higher temperatures cause people to slow down if they had been speeding. Most Z's that are sold will never see the track anyway. It's cooling system is sufficient for the public access roads but not for drag racing. Fine by me. I'm not the one to encourage unsafe behavior in public spaces anyway. Why should Nissan? Once that oil climbs above 300 degrees it is an indication that you are simply pushing it too hard. You can get an oil cooler installed as aftermarket but it would void the warranty. How do you know Nissan didn't plan this to cover their own finances when it comes to warranty repair work from people abusing their cars.

These are some really wreckless speeds that are unsafe for public roads and it puts many many innocent lives in danger. Let's not forget that the Nissan Z is the worst offender for getting traffic moving violations and car wrecks. It's still a great car though. It is just that it has the tendency to attract a certain crowd that causes it's insurance costs to rise up well above normal.

A Lotus Elise is a better track car in my humble opinion. I would get the Z just to drive around town but keep a beater car for groceries getting and bad weather. I don't want someone hitting their shopping cart on my aluminum bodied Nissan Z. Aluminum is weak and dents easily.

Think about this for a minute. If a car that weighs 4,000 pounds with a 332 horsepower V6 engine is overheating even though it is running as designed; This goes to show that someone is driving too fast for even the best driving conditions of dry roads, daylight and 100% visibility. Just drive normally and the oil temperature will stay within normal limits.

You get what you pay for. This is no Porsche 911. But it is still a fine car. You treat the car right and the car will treat you right.

If you want to drive faster than 80mph you should just get an airplane and learn to fly.

If you're not gonna go over 80mph save your money, perhaps a versa would be a better buy?

rmhockman · 11-18-2009, 10:26 AM

I totally agree with you on the oil temperature issues, my 370z touring model w/o sport option runs just fine afterr 8000+ miles of pleasure driving in the mountains of Pennsylvania..

I have never seen oil temps. above 250 even while driving up long mountain grades in 80 deg. temperatures. I don't understand the frenzy about overheating unless a good many owners flog their machines. These are highly engineered cars with an excellent quality rating and they don't come cheap.

avitech · 11-18-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rmhockman

I totally agree with you on the oil temperature issues, my 370z touring model w/o sport option runs just fine afterr 8000+ miles of pleasure driving in the mountains of Pennsylvania..

I have never seen oil temps. above 250 even while driving up long mountain grades in 80 deg. temperatures. I don't understand the frenzy about overheating unless a good many owners flog their machines. These are highly engineered cars with an excellent quality rating and they don't come cheap.

You hit it right on the nail. The Nissan 370Z was perfectly well engineered by mechanical, electrical, and electronic engineers why have their Masters Degrees and Ph Ds. On top of that these same engineers are Japanese who have a reputation for always doing excellent work. If the 332 HP V6 on a 3,300 pound car is overheating even though everything is working as designed, then it is not the engine; it is the driver. Everything overheats if it is overworked. In this case, it is no different.

antennahead · 11-18-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech

You hit it right on the nail. The Nissan 370Z was perfectly well engineered by mechanical, electrical, and electronic engineers why have their Masters Degrees and Ph Ds. On top of that these same engineers are Japanese who have a reputation for always doing excellent work. If the 332 HP V6 on a 4,000 pound car is overheating even though everything is working as designed, then it is not the engine; it is the driver. Everything overheats if it is overworked. In this case, it is no different.

Oh yea, and my 2006 350 oil consumption car, was driver fault as well..... including all the other '06 drivers with the same issue being at fault too. And by the way numb nuts, the Z is NOT a 4000 pound car

370Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rmhockman

I don't understand the frenzy about overheating unless a good many owners flog their machines. These are highly engineered cars with an excellent quality rating and they don't come cheap.

Haha, do you read these forums? Have you seen the MODS.

And they do come cheap...the 370Z is quite a bang for the buck.

PyroCustoms · 11-18-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech

These are some really wreckless speeds that are unsafe for public roads and it puts many many innocent lives in danger.

Tell that to Brock Yates and all the people who race One Lap of America and the original Cannon Ballers....I completely disagree with your statement and agree with Brock Sr. and Jr., those speeds become unsafe when they are done in shitty cars or by shitty inexperience drivers.

AndreZ Cadena · 03-30-2009, 11:54 PM

This kinda **** pisses me off. It really shouldnt matter if it drives fine in normal traffic situations, its a sports car, that how Nissan ADVERTISES it. Thats your key statement. They cant tell you that its a vehicle for use on the street only when its advertised as a sports car that people are obiously going to drive hard and take to events, were the car is going to be exposed to high revving for longer periods of time. IF NOT, then why did nissan outfit the car given to magazines for testing with oil coolers? This issue has to get resolved, and there are ways to argue that we are right.

joeyz10 · 03-30-2009, 11:55 PM

I never had this issue with my 06 lotus elise. It was just bulletproof from the start even when I pushed the engine 99% of the time I drive it.

joeyz10 · 03-30-2009, 11:57 PM

If we have a lawyer on this forum then maybe we can start a class action lawsuit.

marcussoori · 03-31-2009, 12:14 AM

Hi all, I sent the following email to Nissan Consumer Affairs and the NHTSA Complaints Dept. on our behalf (hopefully we'll receive a response!):

Hello, a number of Nissan 370Z owners are reporting issues with unreasonably high oil temps and overheating, both in normal driving conditions and on the track. Please offer a solution to ALL owners to FULLY rectify the situation. The 370Z is a sports car that is built to handle and outperform the competition at half the cost. The Z is an icon. If a recall is necessary, please issue a recall.

Also, a number of Nissan 370Z owners have issues with their seats moving under braking, acceleration, and cornering. The seats should NOT be moving at all while driving. Please investigate this issue immediately and FULLY rectify the situation. This is a VERY LARGE safety matter. If a recall is necessary, please issue a recall.

Thank you for your time.

P.S. To investigate these claims, please view the following links:

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...mp-issues.html
Anyone having a problem with their driver seat moving around with aggressive driving?

Nikon FM · 04-01-2009, 06:30 PM

The car's engine should not have an over-heat issue with the oil under any circumstance. A good design should have accounted for that. The rev limiter kicking in under high temps is an attempt to save the engine so the engineers knew about the possibility. The fact that the car was released to the public without at least the oil cooler being available (option or otherwise) is a good question for Nissan Corp. to answer.

P. S. I love the car

JohnnyBgood · 03-31-2009, 09:04 AM

I'm sending a letter today as well. I've seen the temp climb to over 240 after just 5-10 minutes of somewhat spirited driving ON THE STREET!!! This was in 80 degree weather. I hate to think what's going to happen when we get over 100. (I'm in Texas.)

03-31-2009, 12:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
marcussoori Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 468 Drives: 09 370Z Red AT Sport Rep Power: 17	Hi all, I sent the following email to Nissan Consumer Affairs and the NHTSA Complaints Dept. on our behalf (hopefully we'll receive a response!): Hello, a number of Nissan 370Z owners are reporting issues with unreasonably high oil temps and overheating, both in normal driving conditions and on the track. Please offer a solution to ALL owners to FULLY rectify the situation. The 370Z is a sports car that is built to handle and outperform the competition at half the cost. The Z is an icon. If a recall is necessary, please issue a recall. Also, a number of Nissan 370Z owners have issues with their seats moving under braking, acceleration, and cornering. The seats should NOT be moving at all while driving. Please investigate this issue immediately and FULLY rectify the situation. This is a VERY LARGE safety matter. If a recall is necessary, please issue a recall. Thank you for your time. P.S. To investigate these claims, please view the following links: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...mp-issues.html Anyone having a problem with their driver seat moving around with aggressive driving? Last edited by marcussoori; 03-31-2009 at 11:53 AM.

04-01-2009, 06:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
Nikon FM Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Snoqualmie WA Posts: 973 Drives: 03 996TT Porsche Rep Power: 607	I agree The car's engine should not have an over-heat issue with the oil under any circumstance. A good design should have accounted for that. The rev limiter kicking in under high temps is an attempt to save the engine so the engineers knew about the possibility. The fact that the car was released to the public without at least the oil cooler being available (option or otherwise) is a good question for Nissan Corp. to answer. P. S. I love the car __________________ Buddy Revell: "One man's sooner is another man's later"

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11-18-2009, 10:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
rmhockman Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: DuBois PA Posts: 6 Drives: 370z touring Rep Power: 16	I totally agree with you on the oil temperature issues, my 370z touring model w/o sport option runs just fine afterr 8000+ miles of pleasure driving in the mountains of Pennsylvania.. I have never seen oil temps. above 250 even while driving up long mountain grades in 80 deg. temperatures. I don't understand the frenzy about overheating unless a good many owners flog their machines. These are highly engineered cars with an excellent quality rating and they don't come cheap.

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AndreZ Cadena Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 73 Drives: 09Nissan370blkMtSp/p Rep Power: 0	This kinda **** pisses me off. It really shouldnt matter if it drives fine in normal traffic situations, its a sports car, that how Nissan ADVERTISES it. Thats your key statement. They cant tell you that its a vehicle for use on the street only when its advertised as a sports car that people are obiously going to drive hard and take to events, were the car is going to be exposed to high revving for longer periods of time. IF NOT, then why did nissan outfit the car given to magazines for testing with oil coolers? This issue has to get resolved, and there are ways to argue that we are right.

03-30-2009, 11:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
joeyz10 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370z AT/ RRSS 08/ Rep Power: 17	I never had this issue with my 06 lotus elise. It was just bulletproof from the start even when I pushed the engine 99% of the time I drive it.

03-30-2009, 11:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
joeyz10 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370z AT/ RRSS 08/ Rep Power: 17	If we have a lawyer on this forum then maybe we can start a class action lawsuit.

03-31-2009, 09:04 AM	#15 (permalink)
JohnnyBgood Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 55 Drives: 2016 Sport Tech 7AT Rep Power: 17	I'm sending a letter today as well. I've seen the temp climb to over 240 after just 5-10 minutes of somewhat spirited driving ON THE STREET!!! This was in 80 degree weather. I hate to think what's going to happen when we get over 100. (I'm in Texas.)