Everyone with oil temp issues

AndreZ Cadena · 03-31-2009, 12:54 AM

This kinda **** pisses me off. It really shouldnt matter if it drives fine in normal traffic situations, its a sports car, that how Nissan ADVERTISES it. Thats your key statement. They cant tell you that its a vehicle for use on the street only when its advertised as a sports car that people are obiously going to drive hard and take to events, were the car is going to be exposed to high revving for longer periods of time. IF NOT, then why did nissan outfit the car given to magazines for testing with oil coolers? This issue has to get resolved, and there are ways to argue that we are right.

joeyz10 · 03-31-2009, 12:55 AM

I never had this issue with my 06 lotus elise. It was just bulletproof from the start even when I pushed the engine 99% of the time I drive it.

joeyz10 · 03-31-2009, 12:57 AM

If we have a lawyer on this forum then maybe we can start a class action lawsuit.

AndreZ Cadena · 03-31-2009, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeyz10

Hey Mu, okay i read the car and driver that you posted. Thanks. But does this mean if we will complain to Nissan we have to pay them 500 dollars for the oil cooler? and another 500 for the differential cooler if we want? This should be free because why would Nissan produce a car that a oil temp would go up?

Exactly, and why wasnt it an option from factory? Why sell a sports package with out it?

If we woulve had the chance to add it as an option when we pay $30k + for this "sports car", then nobody should be crying about it. But since it wasnt offered, that tells the costumer that this car doesnt need an oil cooler if your driving it like it was invented for, no one here is running a 24 hours of le mans in a stock 370Z.

marcussoori · 03-31-2009, 01:14 AM

Hi all, I sent the following email to Nissan Consumer Affairs and the NHTSA Complaints Dept. on our behalf (hopefully we'll receive a response!):

Hello, a number of Nissan 370Z owners are reporting issues with unreasonably high oil temps and overheating, both in normal driving conditions and on the track. Please offer a solution to ALL owners to FULLY rectify the situation. The 370Z is a sports car that is built to handle and outperform the competition at half the cost. The Z is an icon. If a recall is necessary, please issue a recall.

Also, a number of Nissan 370Z owners have issues with their seats moving under braking, acceleration, and cornering. The seats should NOT be moving at all while driving. Please investigate this issue immediately and FULLY rectify the situation. This is a VERY LARGE safety matter. If a recall is necessary, please issue a recall.

Thank you for your time.

P.S. To investigate these claims, please view the following links:

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...mp-issues.html
Anyone having a problem with their driver seat moving around with aggressive driving?

tbonesteak · 03-31-2009, 01:19 AM

i can already see something happening but not til summer when the westcoast peeps see ~300 on their gauge sitting in 100+ degree traffic on the 405 fwy with ac on full blast. Nissan will for sure do something given that 1. there WILL be a huge concentration of Zs in Socal, 2. they know news travel FAST especially when so many people are affected by it. Until then, i dont think nissan takes it very seriously.

Musashi · 03-31-2009, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeyz10

Hey Mu, okay i read the car and driver that you posted. Thanks. But does this mean if we will complain to Nissan we have to pay them 500 dollars for the oil cooler? and another 500 for the differential cooler if we want? This should be free because why would Nissan produce a car that a oil temp would go up?

They should ante up the parts and put them on under warranty. Once the car is warmed up the fluctuation in oil temps should be minimal. It's unacceptable and we will not stand for it! I really appreciate all of the forum support. It takes more then one person to make a change, especially since the car has just come out they need to know there's a problem.

If the car got really hot after 30 minutes on the track I'd be ok wit that, but after 5 laps which is about 10 miles? What was the point of the synchro rev matching also if they didn't want to stand out as sports car? It helps you to drive harder! Anyway back on subject.....

JohnnyBgood · 03-31-2009, 10:04 AM

I'm sending a letter today as well. I've seen the temp climb to over 240 after just 5-10 minutes of somewhat spirited driving ON THE STREET!!! This was in 80 degree weather. I hate to think what's going to happen when we get over 100. (I'm in Texas.)

Musashi · 03-31-2009, 10:25 AM

yeah Johnny go get em.

alan93rsa · 03-31-2009, 12:44 PM

I'm guessing they may make a change on the new model year. In the meantime how many would pay the $1000.00 to have the coolers noted in Car and Driver? Remember they stated what they thought the options would cost above sticker.

How many would pay less than that for a better solution?

High quality parts are available on line to build the kits. Several vendors have kits either ready to go or in the final stages.

I'd rather Nissan let us install our own solution and not play with the warranty. The solution to this may be done for about 1/4 the price of set of new wheels and tires.

marcussoori · 03-31-2009, 04:41 PM

Hi everyone, AK370Z told me I should add this link to the thread so that any Nissan people looking at the thread (as a result of my message to them) will have a link to the original oil issues thread. Here is the link:

First track experience today ! Some good, some really bad

Thanks

Musashi · 03-31-2009, 04:43 PM

Alan I understand your pov but please understand mine. For some of us it's not about the money, It's about the principal. About not getting what we paid for and Nissan trying to cover it up. Then on top of it them threatening not to warranty me if I use aftermarket. I bought a sports car thats supposed to be able to be competitive against cars that cost 2x as much, not be embarrassed the first time I take it to the track!!!!

Also Alan, the parts being listed on the C&D page are proof of the cover up it's not the dollar amount, Nissan knows the cars run hot and can overheat they didn't want to get bad press and simply made up the figure. A lot of Z owners will start having problems in hot and humid climates when pushing it a little on the favorite back road, etc. It's not just a track thing and not a dollar thing. They should issue a recall. Overheating should not be a concern. Think about that.

Musashi · 03-31-2009, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcussoori

Hi everyone, AK370Z told me I should add this link to the thread so that any Nissan people looking at the thread (as a result of my message to them) will have a link to the original oil issues thread. Here is the link:

First track experience today ! Some good, some really bad

Thanks

I appreciate your efforts.

semtex · 03-31-2009, 05:12 PM

You guys remember the premature tire wear / alignment issue with the 350Z when it first came out? Didn't it take Nissan like 2 years to even acknowledge the issue, let alone address it? I love Nissan cars for the most part, but when it comes to owning up to issues/defects they can be real pricks, which is unfortunate and frustrating.

Musashi · 03-31-2009, 05:21 PM

That's a very good point Semtex, I do remember that.

Well I figure give it my best effort and if that doesn't work put a bad *** aftermarket one on at the same time as my other mods.

03-31-2009, 01:14 AM	#20 (permalink)
marcussoori Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 468 Drives: 09 370Z Red AT Sport Rep Power: 16	Hi all, I sent the following email to Nissan Consumer Affairs and the NHTSA Complaints Dept. on our behalf (hopefully we'll receive a response!): Hello, a number of Nissan 370Z owners are reporting issues with unreasonably high oil temps and overheating, both in normal driving conditions and on the track. Please offer a solution to ALL owners to FULLY rectify the situation. The 370Z is a sports car that is built to handle and outperform the competition at half the cost. The Z is an icon. If a recall is necessary, please issue a recall. Also, a number of Nissan 370Z owners have issues with their seats moving under braking, acceleration, and cornering. The seats should NOT be moving at all while driving. Please investigate this issue immediately and FULLY rectify the situation. This is a VERY LARGE safety matter. If a recall is necessary, please issue a recall. Thank you for your time. P.S. To investigate these claims, please view the following links: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...mp-issues.html Anyone having a problem with their driver seat moving around with aggressive driving? Last edited by marcussoori; 03-31-2009 at 12:53 PM.

03-31-2009, 12:44 PM	#25 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 220	I'm guessing they may make a change on the new model year. In the meantime how many would pay the $1000.00 to have the coolers noted in Car and Driver? Remember they stated what they thought the options would cost above sticker. How many would pay less than that for a better solution? High quality parts are available on line to build the kits. Several vendors have kits either ready to go or in the final stages. I'd rather Nissan let us install our own solution and not play with the warranty. The solution to this may be done for about 1/4 the price of set of new wheels and tires. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

03-31-2009, 04:43 PM	#27 (permalink)
Musashi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 357 Drives: 09 370Z 6speed Rep Power: 606	Alan I understand your pov but please understand mine. For some of us it's not about the money, It's about the principal. About not getting what we paid for and Nissan trying to cover it up. Then on top of it them threatening not to warranty me if I use aftermarket. I bought a sports car thats supposed to be able to be competitive against cars that cost 2x as much, not be embarrassed the first time I take it to the track!!!! Also Alan, the parts being listed on the C&D page are proof of the cover up it's not the dollar amount, Nissan knows the cars run hot and can overheat they didn't want to get bad press and simply made up the figure. A lot of Z owners will start having problems in hot and humid climates when pushing it a little on the favorite back road, etc. It's not just a track thing and not a dollar thing. They should issue a recall. Overheating should not be a concern. Think about that. Last edited by Musashi; 03-31-2009 at 04:57 PM.

03-31-2009, 05:12 PM	#29 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	You guys remember the premature tire wear / alignment issue with the 350Z when it first came out? Didn't it take Nissan like 2 years to even acknowledge the issue, let alone address it? I love Nissan cars for the most part, but when it comes to owning up to issues/defects they can be real pricks, which is unfortunate and frustrating. NismoSender likes this. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

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03-31-2009, 12:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
AndreZ Cadena Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 73 Drives: 09Nissan370blkMtSp/p Rep Power: 0	This kinda **** pisses me off. It really shouldnt matter if it drives fine in normal traffic situations, its a sports car, that how Nissan ADVERTISES it. Thats your key statement. They cant tell you that its a vehicle for use on the street only when its advertised as a sports car that people are obiously going to drive hard and take to events, were the car is going to be exposed to high revving for longer periods of time. IF NOT, then why did nissan outfit the car given to magazines for testing with oil coolers? This issue has to get resolved, and there are ways to argue that we are right.

03-31-2009, 12:55 AM	#17 (permalink)
joeyz10 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370z AT/ RRSS 08/ Rep Power: 16	I never had this issue with my 06 lotus elise. It was just bulletproof from the start even when I pushed the engine 99% of the time I drive it.

03-31-2009, 12:57 AM	#18 (permalink)
joeyz10 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370z AT/ RRSS 08/ Rep Power: 16	If we have a lawyer on this forum then maybe we can start a class action lawsuit.

03-31-2009, 01:19 AM	#21 (permalink)
tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	i can already see something happening but not til summer when the westcoast peeps see ~300 on their gauge sitting in 100+ degree traffic on the 405 fwy with ac on full blast. Nissan will for sure do something given that 1. there WILL be a huge concentration of Zs in Socal, 2. they know news travel FAST especially when so many people are affected by it. Until then, i dont think nissan takes it very seriously.

03-31-2009, 10:04 AM	#23 (permalink)
JohnnyBgood Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 55 Drives: 2016 Sport Tech 7AT Rep Power: 16	I'm sending a letter today as well. I've seen the temp climb to over 240 after just 5-10 minutes of somewhat spirited driving ON THE STREET!!! This was in 80 degree weather. I hate to think what's going to happen when we get over 100. (I'm in Texas.)

03-31-2009, 10:25 AM	#24 (permalink)
Musashi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 357 Drives: 09 370Z 6speed Rep Power: 606	yeah Johnny go get em.

03-31-2009, 04:41 PM	#26 (permalink)
marcussoori Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 468 Drives: 09 370Z Red AT Sport Rep Power: 16	Hi everyone, AK370Z told me I should add this link to the thread so that any Nissan people looking at the thread (as a result of my message to them) will have a link to the original oil issues thread. Here is the link: First track experience today ! Some good, some really bad Thanks

03-31-2009, 05:21 PM	#30 (permalink)
Musashi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 357 Drives: 09 370Z 6speed Rep Power: 606	That's a very good point Semtex, I do remember that. Well I figure give it my best effort and if that doesn't work put a bad *** aftermarket one on at the same time as my other mods.