Everyone with oil temp issues

SoCal 370Z · 04-19-2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lww

Brisk driving on Skyline Blvd. in Santa Clara this afternoon completely within the posted speed limit results in oil temps up to 290/300 and kicks in ECU limp mode...

2009 370Z all stock. Water temps appeared fine the whole time.

Car is going back to the dealer with a "chronic" oil over-heating problem.

This is NOT good! Thanks for reporting this. Can you also tell us how many miles are on your 370Z?

+Rep point

imag · 04-19-2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lww

Brisk driving on Skyline Blvd. in Santa Clara this afternoon completely within the posted speed limit results in oil temps up to 290/300 and kicks in ECU limp mode...

2009 370Z all stock. Water temps appeared fine the whole time.

Car is going back to the dealer with a "chronic" oil over-heating problem.

Wow - that sucks. It will be interesting to see what the dealer does - please update.

If you were *really* within the speed limit, that sounds even worse than what most people have experienced.

travisjb · 04-19-2009, 07:48 PM

That really sucks ! maybe if nissan sees a few cars come back they'll expedite a solution... GL with the dealer

travisjb · 04-19-2009, 07:50 PM

couple more questions...
were you bouncing off the rev limiter or just driving 'briskly'?
manual or automatic?

lww · 04-19-2009, 08:03 PM

Car is a Base Model w/Sport Package 6MT and ~1600 miles on the odometer. Downhill was obviously fine, but the climb back up was where the temps went to hell. It wasn't "bouncing" off the rev limiter, but was running 7200-7500 rpm before shifts in 85+ deg. low humidity weather.

As a side note, it also had the right front outside pad separate from the backing plate and scored the rotor pretty good too. New rotor and front pads will be forthcoming from the dealership.

This is only the first of what will be many runs on Skyline, other "mountain" roads and 100 miles/day of the notorious 680 Sunol Grade and 880 rush hour traffic in the SF Bay Area. If this continues to be a problem that is not solvable by Nissan's service department, it will trigger a lemon law claim.

travisjb · 04-19-2009, 08:11 PM

Sometimes with a manual transmission, it is hard (for me at least!) to get off the gas between gears on an upshift... ie 1st to 2nd you press the clutch but don't lift the throttle... possible that you were running up the throttle between gears and putting it into redline? not saying this is your fault, just trying to understand all the contributing factors - all of which sound like normal driving conditions so far

lww · 04-19-2009, 08:18 PM

SCCA Club Racing license holder from 1988.

travisjb · 04-19-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lww

SCCA Club Racing license holder from 1988.

short and to the point ! love it... still, might be worth watching what happens between gears... this car tends to run up between em, even if your timing is perfect in other cars... humor me and watch next time... thanks

tru_Asiatik · 04-19-2009, 08:33 PM

yesterday we did our first socal 370 canyon run, almost 2 hrs of canyon driving
some cars are running at 250-260

my car stayed at 2 clicks obove 220

SoCal 370Z · 04-19-2009, 08:37 PM

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lww · 04-19-2009, 11:39 PM

Fair enough. The only issue was when acclimating to the late disengagement and the factory 2 inch + "dead spot" at the bottom of the clutch pedal travel.

The clutch needs to be re-adjusted to eliminate almost all but a small portion of this "dead space".

I suspect this is your problem, not an actual defect in your driving style. All the manual VQ37HR's I've driven to date have the same problem.

travisjb · 04-20-2009, 01:15 AM

I agree... I'm going to have my mech look at adjusting my clutch pedal dead zone and engagement points this week!

To test my theory, I'd really like know if the automatic transmission cars are overheating... going forward, please call out which transmission you all have... THANKS!

wstar · 04-20-2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

I agree... I'm going to have my mech look at adjusting my clutch pedal dead zone and engagement points this week!

To test my theory, I'd really like know if the automatic transmission cars are overheating... going forward, please call out which transmission you all have... THANKS!

I haven't run my car as hard as you guys yet, so I can't really compare with you on overheating. I will say that in some respects the 7AT is also susceptible to driver error leading to hitting the rev limiter in the lower gears though. There's a very (very) tiny window for clicking that paddle at just the right time to run the gear out without bumping the limiter, and you have to account for the lag between hitting the paddle and the actual shift occurring.

Musashi · 04-20-2009, 06:35 PM

Chubbs you inspired me, next track day I'm recording my Z.

I'm actually impressed with how much time he got in before getting close to 300 degrees.

I guess that's when the Miatas start passing. lol

joeyz10 · 04-21-2009, 01:14 AM

What the heck? Miatas and Minis passing so with s2k

04-19-2009, 08:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
lww Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SF Bay Posts: 69 Drives: '09 Red Sport 6MT+ Rep Power: 16	Car is a Base Model w/Sport Package 6MT and ~1600 miles on the odometer. Downhill was obviously fine, but the climb back up was where the temps went to hell. It wasn't "bouncing" off the rev limiter, but was running 7200-7500 rpm before shifts in 85+ deg. low humidity weather. As a side note, it also had the right front outside pad separate from the backing plate and scored the rotor pretty good too. New rotor and front pads will be forthcoming from the dealership. This is only the first of what will be many runs on Skyline, other "mountain" roads and 100 miles/day of the notorious 680 Sunol Grade and 880 rush hour traffic in the SF Bay Area. If this continues to be a problem that is not solvable by Nissan's service department, it will trigger a lemon law claim. __________________ Must resist... Last edited by lww; 04-19-2009 at 08:13 PM.

04-19-2009, 08:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
lww Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SF Bay Posts: 69 Drives: '09 Red Sport 6MT+ Rep Power: 16	SCCA Club Racing license holder from 1988. __________________ Must resist...

04-19-2009, 08:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
tru_Asiatik Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: so cal Posts: 793 Drives: 2009 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 271	yesterday we did our first socal 370 canyon run, almost 2 hrs of canyon driving some cars are running at 250-260 my car stayed at 2 clicks obove 220 __________________ Stillen G3 CAIStillen CBEBerk's HFCEibach ProkitHotchkis Swaysichiba 15/20mm spacers? Oil coolerStillen PulleyStillen Headers

04-19-2009, 08:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
SoCal 370Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: US of A Posts: 2,842 Drives: Answers Rep Power: 34	My first choice for an oil cooler is the ARC oil cooler as shown at one of sponsor's blogs: 370Z ARC Oil Cooler. My second choice is being sold by another of our sponsor's: Central 20 Oil Cooler. __________________ ( Click to show/hide ) Why I NEVER say NO to the Panda Lou Fusz!!!

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04-19-2009, 07:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	That really sucks ! maybe if nissan sees a few cars come back they'll expedite a solution... GL with the dealer

04-19-2009, 07:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	couple more questions... were you bouncing off the rev limiter or just driving 'briskly'? manual or automatic?

04-19-2009, 08:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	Sometimes with a manual transmission, it is hard (for me at least!) to get off the gas between gears on an upshift... ie 1st to 2nd you press the clutch but don't lift the throttle... possible that you were running up the throttle between gears and putting it into redline? not saying this is your fault, just trying to understand all the contributing factors - all of which sound like normal driving conditions so far

04-19-2009, 11:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
lww Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SF Bay Posts: 69 Drives: '09 Red Sport 6MT+ Rep Power: 16	Fair enough. The only issue was when acclimating to the late disengagement and the factory 2 inch + "dead spot" at the bottom of the clutch pedal travel. The clutch needs to be re-adjusted to eliminate almost all but a small portion of this "dead space". I suspect this is your problem, not an actual defect in your driving style. All the manual VQ37HR's I've driven to date have the same problem.

04-20-2009, 01:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	I agree... I'm going to have my mech look at adjusting my clutch pedal dead zone and engagement points this week! To test my theory, I'd really like know if the automatic transmission cars are overheating... going forward, please call out which transmission you all have... THANKS!

04-20-2009, 06:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
Musashi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 357 Drives: 09 370Z 6speed Rep Power: 607	Chubbs you inspired me, next track day I'm recording my Z. I'm actually impressed with how much time he got in before getting close to 300 degrees. I guess that's when the Miatas start passing. lol

04-21-2009, 01:14 AM	#15 (permalink)
joeyz10 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370z AT/ RRSS 08/ Rep Power: 17	What the heck? Miatas and Minis passing so with s2k