S-Mode install on base model Z???
 

I have a 2010 370z base model, no sport / touring package. Is it possible to have s-mode installed or is it strictly with the sport package?

If yes, how much would it cost??

I'd bet that it's only for the sport package. You don't need this anyways. Just learn to rev match yourself. It will make you a better driver.

Its possible, but its probably going to be a stupid amount of money. Why didn't you just get a sport in the first place???

^This. I have the base without sport and love it. The synchro-rev matching is a God-send, so I have heard, but it will only limit your abilities if you always use it.

For me, part of the thrill of driving a performance car is knowing how to blip the throttle and toe-heel.

My advice: spend a llittle to get a LSD for your base Z. For me, that is the only valuable part of the sport package (although the Rays wheels look pretty sweet!).

My understanding is that the whole shifter and other electrical components need to be replaced if you were attempting this transition.

You will probably be paying more to buy and get the s-mode installed...
I'd rather get a spoiler + bbk + rims + s-mode instead.
I hope you understand how complex the s-mode is and how annoying it will be to install.

+1 on the LSD.

I'm so glad I got the sport package or I would be like the OP wanting it after I had already bought a base with no sport package.

new transmission, new ecu, new body wiring harness, new lsd, new brakes, its damn near impossible and vary not cost effective, no the transmissions are not the same they are similar just like a man in a dress it may look like a woman but the important bits are different.

better track driver maybe but I don't see how heel and toeing is going to make you a super duper awesome driver.

I know it's not cost effective, but it would be interesting to know who does the SRM function as all 370z's Have the same ECU.

Parts that are specific to SRM Function as far as I know:

1. Shift position Sensor (transmission probably has to be lowered to install)
2. Sports Package Cluster (It has an gear/S mode screen)
3. SRM Function buttom near the shifter.

anything else changes?

the tranny is a different F'n part the shift rod in the tail housing is different to accomodate the magnet that is under the shift sensor. Could you rip the tranny aparat and install the parts necesarry? sure if nissan will sell you that shift rod, and you would need a dealer in to be able to reflash the ecu with the S-mode because the programming in the ecu is different, maybe uprev could do it. the top panel part of the case on the transmission tailhousing would have to get changed as well, all the wiring would have to be altered to add the button, and all the wires for that shift sensor. you would actually be better off to sell your car and buy one with a sports package.

Most of us base owners don't care for those features. I didn't. Doesn't make my car any different or make sport drivers any faster. I assure you that.

However, if you find yourself now want s-mode (another crutch like VDC, yeah..I said it) probably a better and cheaper idea to trade it in and get one with the package already installed.

I have a sport package and honestly I leave the S-Mode off. The only reason I opted to get a car with the sport package is because it came with the LSD and I didnt want the hassle of installing a LSD. If you want S-mode that badly it would honestly be better for you to sell or trade your car and buy a 370z that has the sport package, that way not only do you get the S-Mode but you get the factory BBK, LSD, Snazzy Wheels and your coveted S-Mode.

So you don't care for LSD ??? Larger much better brakes??? 19in Rays??? :ugh2:

Definatly not worth it

The LSD is really the one feature I want, but still can live without. The BBK is nice, but I'd venture to say most people will never use them, or the LSD to it's full advantage on a track. My car is a DD, not a race car :)

I honestly don't like the way the rays wheels look much. If I could save 3k by not getting them, why wouldn't I?

Although, I won't lie, I want the spoiler.

For me, bigger brakes are worthless since I don't track the car. If I did autoX or track days, then they would be desirable.

I should add that if I had found a used Z with the sport package in my price range with low miles I would have seriously considered it. Most of the ones I came across had lots of miles. I would just leave S-mode "off" because I really enjoy toe-heeling. It makes the experience more involving IMO.

I know when i bought my car back in 09 i only paid 1850 for the sport package so 19's +14"rotors+lsd+wing and chin spoiler+synchro revmatch for under 2000? no brainer

For me, it was not the bigger brake rotors but the fixed caliper. I prefer the pedal feel of a fixed caliper over a floating caliper. Track use or street use, the pedal feel is what I wanted. And even a so-so lsd is better than an open diff.

S-Mode plus my non-resonated FI exhaust=Sexyness...

I like the F mode. Using my foot to rev match. Keeps you honest.

Great to know how to do it on your own, but you will never be able to do it as precise or quick as the computer. Plus it gives anyone racing the car on a track the advantage to be able to concentrate more on turning braking etc. Its also the first and only production car in the world with it correct??? If you where not able to turn it off then I can see some of you guys complaing, but you can, so stop being a hater LOL.

short answer: no

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Not really being a hater. Just don't understand why people want to have less to do with there cars and driving habits. And if on the track the precision and quickness of this will not matter a bit even if your half a driver. I promise you. I'd be willing to test that.

I dont know... But having a computer blip the throttle and putting the RPM's in the correct spot EVERYTIME I think would give someone a nice advantage around a track. But I do agree with you about people wanting to have less to do with your car, that is why I love manual trannys. But just as I said, the true hard core racer can just turn it off, I dont have any tracks near me at all (thanks Steve Levy) so the S-mode in my car is really only use to make the car sound cool LOL.

With modern synchros, you don't even need to heel/toe. If you are gentle on letting the clutch out, it will not upset the car.

I tend to disagree on the comment that "this will not matter a bit if your (I think you mean "you're") half a driver." A real racer once commented in an interview that anything that makes you faster is best...be it ABS, traction control, semi-automatic gearbox, etc. On a lap without issue, the S mode may not add much, but on a corner when things are not smooth, it might help keep a bad situation from getting worse. Just like ABS. On a good lap, not difference. But if you hit oil/coolant/etc, you will like having it.

That's fine. Maybe I am half a driver. Don't see how that makes my opinion wrong. But you make a good point on what your suggesting about anything that makes you faster helps. But S-mode is not going to do that. A LSD will. It will help on a lesser experienced driver, I admit. But how in the world if you run through oil,coolant, and etc have to do with S-mode. These things are traction issues. Not rev matching. Also you don't have to know how to heel to toe to be faster. It's about methods.

Good points. I'm sure I wouldn't even know the difference between a floating and fixed caliper! :icon17: I couldn't agree more about the LSD.

WHAT?! WHAT DID YOU SAY RED?! COULDN'T HEAR YOU OVER THAT LOUD BUT ALSO INCREDIBLY AWESOME EXHAUST!
;)

If you go into the braking zone of a corner and are on the limits of traction, a bad heel/toe mismatch can push you past the limits of traction. The s-mode will ensure that the downshift is as smooth as possible. If you are in the wet or on a slick surface (oil/coolant), then it will take less to push you past the edge.

If you want to leave a safety margin to avoid the impact of a potential bad heel/toe, then you have to brake a bit less. So if the s-mode lets you reduce your safety margin, then you now have a quicker lap.

Again, it all comes down to your driving style. If you try to go 10/10th all the time, then I doubt s-mode will help. If you drive 9/10th and try to knock out consistent laps, I think the s-mode will help.

It sounds like for you, s-mode does not help. For me, it does. So neither of us was wrong. 8-)

That makes since. It does. But your always going to have ups and downs every lap and ever turn. So in the long run I guess it will even out. Can we agree on that.:tup:

:tup: LOL