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FERRARI 11-05-2010 10:28 AM

Could it be ?
 
Could it be that at least some of the Engine and Tranny problems come from dealers letting someone run the new cars hard before they are properly broken in?

theDreamer 11-05-2010 10:30 AM

Nope, because I was the only person besides the old tech who drove my car for inspection purposes & I followed the break in.

FERRARI 11-05-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 797235)
Nope, because I was the only person besides the old tech who drove my car for inspection purposes & I followed the break in.

Well......how many miles were on your car when you first saw it........?

theDreamer 11-05-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 797266)
Well......how many miles were on your car when you first saw it........?

3-5 miles
Usually 1 mile for transport
1-2 for inspection
I believe the remaining couple were from me test driving it down the street to verify it all worked & by test drive I barely got on it since I already 'tested' the Z fully.

FERRARI 11-05-2010 10:46 AM

addIn your case unless someone really ran it hard the first 2 to 3 miles this was not the cause. I just know that when the salesperson rides with an interested buyer they rarely tell the driver to take it easy. If we can get enough owners to respond to this thread, maybe we can at least get an idea if this is a possible cause. What do you think????

XwChriswX 11-05-2010 12:53 PM

I picked up my Z with 6 miles on the odometer. I was there when they rolled it off the truck and drove it (on site) to wash it, filled out the final papers while they washed it. Then drove it home. I didn't ever 'get on it' until after 2500 miles and the first oil change. (Perhaps being overly cautious, but I didn't really have time/location/reason to go nuts when I first picked it up.)

FERRARI 11-05-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 797562)
I picked up my Z with 6 miles on the odometer. I was there when they rolled it off the truck and drove it (on site) to wash it, filled out the final papers while they washed it. Then drove it home. I didn't ever 'get on it' until after 2500 miles and the first oil change. (Perhaps being overly cautious, but I didn't really have time/location/reason to go nuts when I first picked it up.)

Have you had any mechanical problems?

370zproject 11-05-2010 01:33 PM

i got mine with 9 miles off the showroom floor... broke it in hard around 1k miles.... no problems..

FERRARI 11-05-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 797669)
i got mine with 9 miles off the showroom floor... broke it in hard around 1k miles.... no problems..

Great !! Glad to hear that...Drive it like you stole it...

daisuke149 11-05-2010 02:09 PM

I got mine with 2500 miles. It was the demo car. It was test driven hard. Just like i test drove it.

Go up a curvy road. SLAM THE brakes as hard as you can. accelerate as fast as you can. TURN sharp. do it again and get back.

Ive had no issues with it. No oil consumption, clutch, brakes etc.

(i mean i roasted my own brakes at the z nats track event)

but just incase, I made sure when i got my car that incase there is premature wear on the brakes, clutch, that they would hook me up on the replacement.

P.S why would i get a car with 2500? cus it was 41.7k msrp and i got it for under 33k.

XwChriswX 11-05-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 797650)
Have you had any mechanical problems?

None. Not even noticeable oil loss. :happydance:

FERRARI 11-05-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 797761)
I got mine with 2500 miles. It was the demo car. It was test driven hard. Just like i test drove it.

Go up a curvy road. SLAM THE brakes as hard as you can. accelerate as fast as you can. TURN sharp. do it again and get back.

Ive had no issues with it. No oil consumption, clutch, brakes etc.

(i mean i roasted my own brakes at the z nats track event)

but just incase, I made sure when i got my car that incase there is premature wear on the brakes, clutch, that they would hook me up on the replacement.

P.S why would i get a car with 2500? cus it was 41.7k msrp and i got it for under 33k.

What a Deal you got on your car !! Did you get it in Hotlanta?
How many miles do you have on her now ?

spearfish25 11-05-2010 02:58 PM

Let me be the other side of this coin. I bought my car with 320 miles on it. Turns out the dealership manager was driving it as his personal car for a week or two (I don't really blame him). It took me a bit to commit to buying a new car with 300+ 'test drive' miles, but I finally decided that I wanted the car then and not 3 months later. The engine and tranny have been fantastic (knock on wood).

m4a1mustang 11-05-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 797863)
Let me be the other side of this coin. I bought my car with 320 miles on it. Turns out the dealership manager was driving it as his personal car for a week or two (I don't really blame him). It took me a bit to commit to buying a new car with 300+ 'test drive' miles, but I finally decided that I wanted the car then and not 3 months later. The engine and tranny have been fantastic (knock on wood).

I was in the same boat. Mine had a few hundred miles on it. I owned the car for 27,500 miles and had ZERO mechanical issues.

daisuke149 11-05-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 797821)
What a Deal you got on your car !! Did you get it in Hotlanta?
How many miles do you have on her now ?

yeah in atlanta. 9500.

maybe the trick to our cars is break it in hard! that seems to be the verdict!

jpritche 11-05-2010 03:03 PM

I picked up mine with 37 miles on the ODO. It is the touring/sport package with navi for 31 thousand after tax. I am not sure about the previous test drives, but nobody rode with me during my test drive, and it now has 7200 miles on it and is absolutely perfect.

Trips 11-05-2010 03:05 PM

Isn't there a thread already?

FERRARI 11-05-2010 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 797872)
I picked up mine with 37 miles on the ODO. It is the touring/sport package with navi for 31 thousand after tax. I am not sure about the previous test drives, but nobody rode with me during my test drive, and it now has 7200 miles on it and is absolutely perfect.

You mean they let you drive the Z and nobody rode with you? Wow...I never heard of that before.........Where did you buy it?

XwChriswX 11-05-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 797870)
maybe the trick to our cars is break it in hard! that seems to be the verdict!

Sounds like the same as the first time you break in a woman...

"Ride her hard as hell the first time, cause that shit won't ever feel the same afterwards"

:bowrofl:

IDZRVIT 11-05-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 797870)
maybe the trick to our cars is break it in hard! that seems to be the verdict!

NOT! I didn't break my first 370Z in hard and it was never in for warranty nor did it burn oil. It was traded with 16000 miles for a 2010 roadster. The roadster will also have a normal breakin. It's amazing how some people try to out think automotive engineers who design the engines and recommend the breakin periods. Yes, you can drive the hell out a car from new and it may be ok afterwards. Or, it may not!

Oh wait! Would you go on the internet to get medical advice or listen to your doctor? Same analogy.

FERRARI 11-05-2010 04:49 PM

The whole point of this thread is to find out if there is any correlation in how the car was driven the first 10 to 300 miles and if there are any ENGINE or TRANSMISSION trouble now

daisuke149 11-05-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 797963)
NOT! I didn't break my first 370Z in hard and it was never in for warranty nor did it burn oil. It was traded with 16000 miles for a 2010 roadster. The roadster will also have a normal breakin. It's amazing how some people try to out think automotive engineers who design the engines and recommend the breakin periods. Yes, you can drive the hell out a car from new and it may be ok afterwards. Or, it may not!

Oh wait! Would you go on the internet to get medical advice or listen to your doctor? Same analogy.

I personally think its amazing when people get all fussy over a sarcastic statement. (pointing at you!)

hahaha

P.S the "engineers" also recommend oil change every 3500 miles even if you use synthetic in our cars...

They also recommend that we don't need oil coolers...

They also recommend that I drive naked...

wait that last one i recommended to myself

(you should take that statement seriously too)

ThoriumHotdog 11-05-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 798064)
I personally think its amazing when people get all fussy over a sarcastic statement. (pointing at you!)

hahaha

P.S the "engineers" also recommend oil change every 3500 miles even if you use synthetic in our cars...

They also recommend that we don't need oil coolers...

They also recommend that I drive naked...

wait that last one i recommended to myself

(you should take that statement seriously too)



No NO No! They only recommended that we drive naked in the roadsters, not the coupes.

As for break in, I'm going to take my brothers word on it. The engine may not need some 1960's break in procedure thanks to modern tolerances but the other parts may. I also plan on learning how to drive the car first. Getting to know it and it's limits before really getting on it hard.

IDZRVIT 11-05-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 798064)
I personally think its amazing when people get all fussy over a sarcastic statement. (pointing at you!)

hahaha

P.S the "engineers" also recommend oil change every 3500 miles even if you use synthetic in our cars...

They also recommend that we don't need oil coolers...

They also recommend that I drive naked...

wait that last one i recommended to myself

(you should take that statement seriously too)

More nonsense. Guys like you ruin the forum.

FERRARI 11-05-2010 06:03 PM

Come on........lol...........no need to be so hard on him....now is there ?

daisuke149 11-05-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 798089)
More nonsense. Guys like you ruin the forum.

I tend to think that it makes it more fun.

people who take things too seriously (in person and on the internet) ruin things.

NewlyIMPORTed 11-05-2010 07:01 PM

^ I agree

sonic370 11-05-2010 08:21 PM

flame suit is on.. got mine with 50 miles on it....

don't know crap about how to break in a sports car....

i just drove the dang thing damn glad to own one...

well i'm now at 11,500 miles.. changed oil first at 3000.. 6500..
and next one will be at 12,000.. plan on changing oil now every 6000
miles using mobil 1. once or twice a week i redline the car just for the hell
of it. so far the car does not burn any oil...

as far as the transmission which is a AT no issues... plan on getting it serviced at around 26,000. but i've also had old timers say on the trans if it ain't broke don't fix it..

370Zsteve 11-05-2010 08:59 PM

62 miles when I bought it. (salesman said "and it only has 62 miles on it" :icon14:)

From mile 62 thru 1800 I broke it in according to the manual.

Zero issues, minor oil consumption up to 500 miles, now doesn't burn oil at all.

FERRARI 11-06-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 798318)
62 miles when I bought it. (salesman said "and it only has 62 miles on it" :icon14:)

From mile 62 thru 1800 I broke it in according to the manual.

Zero issues, minor oil consumption up to 500 miles, now doesn't burn oil at all.

With 62 miles it could have been driven hard on a test drive.....

XwChriswX 11-06-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 797963)
Oh wait! Would you go on the internet to get medical advice or listen to your doctor?

Does this mean that webmd.com is not where I go to for all my sickly woe's?? :eek:

FERRARI 11-06-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 799144)
Does this mean that webmd.com is not where I go to for all my sickly woe's?? :eek:

????????

BOLIO 671 11-07-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 797669)
i got mine with 9 miles off the showroom floor... broke it in hard around 1k miles.... no problems..

Had the same amount of miles and opened it up at about 800+ miles...with a few moments of spirited driving in between. Way I figure it is this is a Sports Car...and should be driven as such...I'm not saying go out there and drive it like you stole it...but don't baby the dam thing...

For those that followed the recommendations...Big Thumbs Up to you guys for being patient on laying off the pedal..I mean with this kind of car, how can you go slow?

christian370z 11-07-2010 10:40 PM

I was the first person to drive my Z and left the dealer with 7 miles on the clock including my test drive. I waited until around 600 miles before I did my first WOT pull but I did not do anything more than a WOT pull every once in a while before I passed 1,200 miles. I have no issues whatsoever and changed the oil around 1,200 miles as well for peace of mind but the car has not skipped a beat.


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