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nismo 1234 10-02-2010 12:19 AM

i live in bc... hills everywhere. and idiot drivers always drive up so close. so everyitme before i stop at a hill or someone is driving towards me, i just roll back a bit engage clutch and roll back a bit than engage the clutch again. the driver behind wil get scared and stay away

fritz 10-02-2010 04:43 PM

All those driving experts! This FIA International "A" licence holder (ex) did AOK in that department, thanks.

Apparently folk can do the one-shot start anywhere (like at my garage too) but that's not the problem.

Electronics advice..throttle..was the polite request on the "Engine and Drivetrain Forum" for an "engine and drivetrain" solution. One lives in hope.

Regards to all,

Fritz

cossie1600 10-02-2010 09:03 PM

Good for you, I can pay $4000 to get my racing license too. Without doing it, I can still drive my car up a hill without rolling backwards. WOOHOO

ROC1ROB 10-03-2010 07:48 AM

I'd be embarassed to ask the question in the first place!! :shakes head: But it seems to me you need to get out there and do it, do it and do it again. The roll back close method usally works for people that follow too close, until you meet a guy like me that enjoys a game or two. I'll swap paint with you!!!! :tiphat:

drivin blind 10-04-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 744335)
subaru comes with a feature called 'hill holder' its designed so you have a second or two to start moving forward on a hill without rolling backwards.

My STI came with this feature and can't be turned off! (08) To me, someone that's driven manual transmissions for over 40 years, I absolutley hate it! My .02 RP:stirthepot:

Jeffblue 10-04-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by drivin blind (Post 749739)
My STI came with this feature and can't be turned off! (08) To me, someone that's driven manual transmissions for over 40 years, I absolutley hate it! My .02 RP:stirthepot:

i feel like i wouldn't mind it in san fransisco. i'm used to driving stick by now, but i have to admit, on a really steep hill, when someone pulls really close up behind me, i definitely am paying more attention to how i start.

cossie1600 10-06-2010 12:44 PM

Don't most European countries require you to do an uphill start without the parking brakes in order to pass a driving test?

Jeffblue 10-06-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 753485)
Don't most European countries require you to do an uphill start without the parking brakes in order to pass a driving test?

In many other countries, you have to take a road test on a manual transmission.

Push370zzz 10-06-2010 03:37 PM

just.....

clutch in, brake in, first gear, rotate heel over to gas, tap, let out clutch to catch point

come on dudes, nobody else does this???

Lloydy 10-06-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 753485)
Don't most European countries require you to do an uphill start without the parking brakes in order to pass a driving test?

Yes, in the UK certainly, the "Hill Start" is part of the driving test. The E Brake is used in this situation to hold the car while you let the clutch out, you fail if you roll back.

cossie1600 10-06-2010 04:52 PM

i guess you dont need to pass that to get a fia license haha

Jeffblue 10-06-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by smashwebs (Post 753832)
just.....

clutch in, brake in, first gear, rotate heel over to gas, tap, let out clutch to catch point

come on dudes, nobody else does this???

i do. i dont do that handbrake stuff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lloydy (Post 753834)
Yes, in the UK certainly, the "Hill Start" is part of the driving test. The E Brake is used in this situation to hold the car while you let the clutch out, you fail if you roll back.

you fail if you roll back at all? or just if you roll back a significant amount?

Lloydy 10-06-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 753998)
i do. i dont do that handbrake stuff



you fail if you roll back at all? or just if you roll back a significant amount?

Sorry should have said, you fail if you rollback a significant ammount, you have to show that you are in control of the car at all times, they could also fail you if you kept stalling the car while doing this too.
That said, I did mine 20 years ago, it may have changed now, but I doubt they made it any easier.

Jeffblue 10-06-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lloydy (Post 754123)
Sorry should have said, you fail if you rollback a significant ammount, you have to show that you are in control of the car at all times, they could also fail you if you kept stalling the car while doing this too.
That said, I did mine 20 years ago, it may have changed now, but I doubt they made it any easier.

i was gonna say, no rollback is pretty hard. there nothing really unsafe about 1-2 inches of rollback when starting on a steep hill.

Anarky 11-02-2010 12:02 AM

I agree with what many others have all ready said.Use the E brake and practice till you learn the car.I live in Utah and drive in the Mnts and they get up to 9000 + above sea level.Every manual I've ever owned was diff and took some time to get use to


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