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JayYoon 09-18-2010 03:54 AM

1st gear clutch?
 
I am nub... I admit... So I need your guys expertise =)

Does this happen to you guys as well?

I am in a parking lot. I am at a stop. Now I am slowing driving and I am in first gear. Now I am about to shift into 2nd gear and at the same its around at 3000 rpm (1st gear) and now i press the clutch all the way (so that I can shift into 2nd gear) and then sometimes I can feel my car like slamming against something. Like it happens randomly. I don't know what causes it. I know for a fact that its probably the way I drive. So anyone noticed this too? Like every time this happens me and the passenger jerk. This only happens when I am trying to go from 1st to 2nd gear. Happens when I press the clutch all the way. HELP~~~;; =(

ZedZed 09-18-2010 04:08 AM

You probably tend to clutch out too quickly. If you do that the car will be jerky. Try releasing the clutch gently after sticking it into gear. If you clutched out too slow or kept your foot in the clutch you'd over rev and stand still. It must be because of your clutch foot work not being smooth enough.

JayYoon 09-18-2010 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed (Post 726414)
You probably tend to clutch out too quickly. If you do that the car will be jerky. Try releasing the clutch gently after sticking it into gear.

The problem isn't when I am shifting to 2nd gear its right in between. The moment I press the clutch the car kinda slams. Like I thought at first I was just bad at shifting so tested. While driving in first and i just press the clutch when it was at 3000rpm to see what happens and it slams. Like as if I am driving in fifth gear and slamming the clutch.

ZedZed 09-18-2010 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 726415)
The problem isn't when I am shifting to 2nd gear its right in between. The moment I press the clutch the car kinda slams. Like I thought at first I was just bad at shifting so tested. While driving in first and i just press the clutch when it was at 3000rpm to see what happens and it slams. Like as if I am driving in fifth gear and slamming the clutch.

If you stick it in 1st gear & drive off till 3000rpm, clutch in fully and you feel a slamming motion, then I'd think there's something wrong with your car. Does it do the same thing with & without synchro rev? Maybe it's interfering in some way?

JayYoon 09-18-2010 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed (Post 726417)
If you stick it in 1st gear & drive off till 3000rpm, clutch in fully and you feel a slamming motion, then I'd think there's something wrong with your car. Does it do the same thing with & without synchro rev? Maybe it's interfering in some way?

My car is base and does not have the syn rev so I shouldn't worry about that.

So my question is then... when in first gear at 3000 rpm when u press the clutch u shouldn't really feel slamming... right? Like if you just press it and not let go... shouldn't feel any slamming sensation... right?!

ZedZed 09-18-2010 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 726418)
My car is base and does not have the syn rev so I shouldn't worry about that.

So my question is then... when in first gear at 3000 rpm when u press the clutch u shouldn't really feel slamming... right? Like if you just press it and not let go... shouldn't feel any slamming sensation... right?!

The car should just continue to drive as is, eventually slow down and not jerk. In all my years of driving manuals I've never experienced a jerk or slam when clutching in at any speed. Maybe someone else will come up with a miracle explanation but I think you should show it to your dealership, I personally would.

JayYoon 09-18-2010 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed (Post 726419)
The car should just continue to drive as is, eventually slow down and not jerk. In all my years of driving manuals I've never experienced a jerk or slam when clutching in at any speed. Maybe someone else will come up with a miracle explanation but I think you should show it to your dealership, I personally would.

Thank you for your help and concern. Lets see if anyone else has the same problem.

1slow370 09-18-2010 04:45 AM

are you letting the gas off before pushing the clutch in? your timing may be bad with that. try it again but instead of pushing the clutch in, accelerate to 3000 and just let the gas off suddenly like would be shifting. You may be starting to engine brake before you are pushing the clutch in. you should let off the gas when the clutch is at its release point not when u start pushing the clutch in. if it feels the same as accelerating to 3000 and just taking your foot off the gas this is your problem. Is this your first manual car because my sister did this when i was teaching her in my beater?

JayYoon 09-18-2010 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 726422)
are you letting the gas off before pushing the clutch in? your timing may be bad with that. try it again but instead of pushing the clutch in, accelerate to 3000 and just let the gas off suddenly like would be shifting. You may be starting to engine brake before you are pushing the clutch in. you should let off the gas when the clutch is at its release point not when u start pushing the clutch in. if it feels the same as accelerating to 3000 and just taking your foot off the gas this is your problem. Is this your first manual car because my sister did this when i was teaching her in my beater?

^_^;; yes this is my first manual.

So your tell me to let go of the gas 100% before pressing the clutch?

JDubya 09-18-2010 05:50 AM

yes, you shouldn't be on the gas when pressing the clutch in.

JayYoon 09-18-2010 07:04 AM

Any other advice?

zero 09-18-2010 07:10 AM

Practice and keep VDC on.

1slow370 09-19-2010 10:38 AM

i said to take your foot off the gas without pushing hte clutch just to see if that was the same feeling. Eventually your timing and feel will get better and you will be taking your foot off the gas at the exact moment the clutch releases which is the goal.

JayYoon 09-20-2010 01:39 AM

i dun understand. I tried its like on off thingy... sometimes it slamms and sometimes it doesnt... anyone have the same problems?

also when it slams... it feels though as the clutch is really tightly stuck in 1st gear and going to 2nd gear feels much stiffer...

1slow370 09-20-2010 05:24 AM

i find the shifter in this car is hard to get into second gear anyway so that doesn't help. point being if it slams you are letting off the gas too early <--- If that and practice don't solve it have a friend that knows how to drive a manual go for a ride with you and ask them their thoughts.

kdo2milger 09-20-2010 05:59 AM

start here...

the clunk has been discussed in detail in many threads...so far as I know all 370s have this issue...mine does as well, you just have to find the sweet spot and even then it will occasionally clunk...

good luck :driving:

tonybui 09-20-2010 10:31 AM

What happens to me is when driving in 1st at about 2000-3000rpm, push the clutch in and bam, a loud thud, I mean WTF is that ???? And it happens randomly too. Should I be worry??

1slow370 09-20-2010 10:49 AM

THAT is the clunk and nissan says it's nothing.

Jeffblue 09-20-2010 10:56 AM

its from pushing in the clutch pedal too quickly at low speed. happens at low speed in 1st, and 2nd (even third at very low speeds) if you just STOMP the pedal to the floor.

cruzmisl 09-20-2010 01:43 PM

You will eventually find the sweet spot to stop the clunk. I haven't clunked in a long time. It used to happen every time when I first got the car.

I find that getting up to 3500rpm and going into second usually prevents it from happening. Or shifting to second at a really low RPM, like under 2000.

It is something that really bugged me before, but now I rarely hear it. Just going up my steep *** driveway sometimes when I push in the clutch in the garage. Can't really help it there.

Push370zzz 09-20-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 726411)
I am nub... I admit... So I need your guys expertise =)

Does this happen to you guys as well?

I am in a parking lot. I am at a stop. Now I am slowing driving and I am in first gear. Now I am about to shift into 2nd gear and at the same its around at 3000 rpm (1st gear) and now i press the clutch all the way (so that I can shift into 2nd gear) and then sometimes I can feel my car like slamming against something. Like it happens randomly. I don't know what causes it. I know for a fact that its probably the way I drive. So anyone noticed this too? Like every time this happens me and the passenger jerk. This only happens when I am trying to go from 1st to 2nd gear. Happens when I press the clutch all the way. HELP~~~;; =(

I think what you're talking about is what happens to me too. Give it just a little dab of throttle before pushing in the clutch.

Juleous 09-20-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 728247)
start here...

the clunk has been discussed in detail in many threads...so far as I know all 370s have this issue...mine does as well, you just have to find the sweet spot and even then it will occasionally clunk...

good luck :driving:

Exactly, everyone seems to have the same issue. In fact it pretty much happens in most manual cars. I found the only time it does it for me is when I am parking.

JayYoon 09-20-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tonybui (Post 728451)
What happens to me is when driving in 1st at about 2000-3000rpm, push the clutch in and bam, a loud thud, I mean WTF is that ???? And it happens randomly too. Should I be worry??

It makes the big cocking noise... right?!

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 728481)
THAT is the clunk and nissan says it's nothing.

So its okay for the car? because it sounds as if it would be harmful to the car.

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 728491)
its from pushing in the clutch pedal too quickly at low speed. happens at low speed in 1st, and 2nd (even third at very low speeds) if you just STOMP the pedal to the floor.

this only happens to me in first gear. so should i give it a little more gas?

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Originally Posted by smashwebs (Post 728872)
I think what you're talking about is what happens to me too. Give it just a little dab of throttle before pushing in the clutch.

So you think its because when i am in first gear as the car slowly rows i kinda let go of the clutch and use mostly the gas paddle. you think its because of that?

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Originally Posted by Juleous (Post 728880)
Exactly, everyone seems to have the same issue. In fact it pretty much happens in most manual cars. I found the only time it does it for me is when I am parking.

I noticed when I am in a traffic it occurs more often and even in parking lots.

JayYoon 09-20-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 728247)
start here...

the clunk has been discussed in detail in many threads...so far as I know all 370s have this issue...mine does as well, you just have to find the sweet spot and even then it will occasionally clunk...

good luck :driving:

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JayYoon 09-20-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 728239)
i find the shifter in this car is hard to get into second gear anyway so that doesn't help. point being if it slams you are letting off the gas too early <--- If that and practice don't solve it have a friend that knows how to drive a manual go for a ride with you and ask them their thoughts.

hmmm so you think u need to give it more throttle?

kdo2milger 09-21-2010 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 728924)
link does not work~~;;

strange it did when i posted...

anyway thanks link updated...

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