1st gear clutch?

JayYoon · 09-18-2010, 04:54 AM

I am nub... I admit... So I need your guys expertise =)

Does this happen to you guys as well?

I am in a parking lot. I am at a stop. Now I am slowing driving and I am in first gear. Now I am about to shift into 2nd gear and at the same its around at 3000 rpm (1st gear) and now i press the clutch all the way (so that I can shift into 2nd gear) and then sometimes I can feel my car like slamming against something. Like it happens randomly. I don't know what causes it. I know for a fact that its probably the way I drive. So anyone noticed this too? Like every time this happens me and the passenger jerk. This only happens when I am trying to go from 1st to 2nd gear. Happens when I press the clutch all the way. HELP~~~;; =(

ZedZed · 09-18-2010, 05:08 AM

You probably tend to clutch out too quickly. If you do that the car will be jerky. Try releasing the clutch gently after sticking it into gear. If you clutched out too slow or kept your foot in the clutch you'd over rev and stand still. It must be because of your clutch foot work not being smooth enough.

JayYoon · 09-18-2010, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed

You probably tend to clutch out too quickly. If you do that the car will be jerky. Try releasing the clutch gently after sticking it into gear.

The problem isn't when I am shifting to 2nd gear its right in between. The moment I press the clutch the car kinda slams. Like I thought at first I was just bad at shifting so tested. While driving in first and i just press the clutch when it was at 3000rpm to see what happens and it slams. Like as if I am driving in fifth gear and slamming the clutch.

ZedZed · 09-18-2010, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon

The problem isn't when I am shifting to 2nd gear its right in between. The moment I press the clutch the car kinda slams. Like I thought at first I was just bad at shifting so tested. While driving in first and i just press the clutch when it was at 3000rpm to see what happens and it slams. Like as if I am driving in fifth gear and slamming the clutch.

If you stick it in 1st gear & drive off till 3000rpm, clutch in fully and you feel a slamming motion, then I'd think there's something wrong with your car. Does it do the same thing with & without synchro rev? Maybe it's interfering in some way?

JayYoon · 09-18-2010, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed

If you stick it in 1st gear & drive off till 3000rpm, clutch in fully and you feel a slamming motion, then I'd think there's something wrong with your car. Does it do the same thing with & without synchro rev? Maybe it's interfering in some way?

My car is base and does not have the syn rev so I shouldn't worry about that.

So my question is then... when in first gear at 3000 rpm when u press the clutch u shouldn't really feel slamming... right? Like if you just press it and not let go... shouldn't feel any slamming sensation... right?!

ZedZed · 09-18-2010, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon

My car is base and does not have the syn rev so I shouldn't worry about that.

So my question is then... when in first gear at 3000 rpm when u press the clutch u shouldn't really feel slamming... right? Like if you just press it and not let go... shouldn't feel any slamming sensation... right?!

The car should just continue to drive as is, eventually slow down and not jerk. In all my years of driving manuals I've never experienced a jerk or slam when clutching in at any speed. Maybe someone else will come up with a miracle explanation but I think you should show it to your dealership, I personally would.

JayYoon · 09-18-2010, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed

The car should just continue to drive as is, eventually slow down and not jerk. In all my years of driving manuals I've never experienced a jerk or slam when clutching in at any speed. Maybe someone else will come up with a miracle explanation but I think you should show it to your dealership, I personally would.

Thank you for your help and concern. Lets see if anyone else has the same problem.

1slow370 · 09-18-2010, 05:45 AM

are you letting the gas off before pushing the clutch in? your timing may be bad with that. try it again but instead of pushing the clutch in, accelerate to 3000 and just let the gas off suddenly like would be shifting. You may be starting to engine brake before you are pushing the clutch in. you should let off the gas when the clutch is at its release point not when u start pushing the clutch in. if it feels the same as accelerating to 3000 and just taking your foot off the gas this is your problem. Is this your first manual car because my sister did this when i was teaching her in my beater?

JayYoon · 09-18-2010, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

are you letting the gas off before pushing the clutch in? your timing may be bad with that. try it again but instead of pushing the clutch in, accelerate to 3000 and just let the gas off suddenly like would be shifting. You may be starting to engine brake before you are pushing the clutch in. you should let off the gas when the clutch is at its release point not when u start pushing the clutch in. if it feels the same as accelerating to 3000 and just taking your foot off the gas this is your problem. Is this your first manual car because my sister did this when i was teaching her in my beater?

^_^;; yes this is my first manual.

So your tell me to let go of the gas 100% before pressing the clutch?

JDubya · 09-18-2010, 06:50 AM

yes, you shouldn't be on the gas when pressing the clutch in.

JayYoon · 09-18-2010, 08:04 AM

Any other advice?

zero · 09-18-2010, 08:10 AM

Practice and keep VDC on.

1slow370 · 09-19-2010, 11:38 AM

i said to take your foot off the gas without pushing hte clutch just to see if that was the same feeling. Eventually your timing and feel will get better and you will be taking your foot off the gas at the exact moment the clutch releases which is the goal.

JayYoon · 09-20-2010, 02:39 AM

i dun understand. I tried its like on off thingy... sometimes it slamms and sometimes it doesnt... anyone have the same problems?

also when it slams... it feels though as the clutch is really tightly stuck in 1st gear and going to 2nd gear feels much stiffer...

1slow370 · 09-20-2010, 06:24 AM

i find the shifter in this car is hard to get into second gear anyway so that doesn't help. point being if it slams you are letting off the gas too early <--- If that and practice don't solve it have a friend that knows how to drive a manual go for a ride with you and ask them their thoughts.

09-18-2010, 04:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
JayYoon Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: san diego Posts: 452 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 15	1st gear clutch? I am nub... I admit... So I need your guys expertise =) Does this happen to you guys as well? I am in a parking lot. I am at a stop. Now I am slowing driving and I am in first gear. Now I am about to shift into 2nd gear and at the same its around at 3000 rpm (1st gear) and now i press the clutch all the way (so that I can shift into 2nd gear) and then sometimes I can feel my car like slamming against something. Like it happens randomly. I don't know what causes it. I know for a fact that its probably the way I drive. So anyone noticed this too? Like every time this happens me and the passenger jerk. This only happens when I am trying to go from 1st to 2nd gear. Happens when I press the clutch all the way. HELP~~~;; =(

09-18-2010, 05:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
ZedZed Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Belgium, Brussels Posts: 237 Drives: nothing Rep Power: 15	You probably tend to clutch out too quickly. If you do that the car will be jerky. Try releasing the clutch gently after sticking it into gear. If you clutched out too slow or kept your foot in the clutch you'd over rev and stand still. It must be because of your clutch foot work not being smooth enough. Last edited by ZedZed; 09-18-2010 at 05:13 AM.

09-18-2010, 05:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	are you letting the gas off before pushing the clutch in? your timing may be bad with that. try it again but instead of pushing the clutch in, accelerate to 3000 and just let the gas off suddenly like would be shifting. You may be starting to engine brake before you are pushing the clutch in. you should let off the gas when the clutch is at its release point not when u start pushing the clutch in. if it feels the same as accelerating to 3000 and just taking your foot off the gas this is your problem. Is this your first manual car because my sister did this when i was teaching her in my beater? __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-18-2010, 08:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
zero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,259 Drives: MK 7.5 Golf R Rep Power: 22	Practice and keep VDC on. __________________

09-19-2010, 11:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	i said to take your foot off the gas without pushing hte clutch just to see if that was the same feeling. Eventually your timing and feel will get better and you will be taking your foot off the gas at the exact moment the clutch releases which is the goal. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-18-2010, 06:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
JDubya Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 94 Drives: '14 Mid. Blue 6MT Rep Power: 15	yes, you shouldn't be on the gas when pressing the clutch in.

09-18-2010, 08:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
JayYoon Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: san diego Posts: 452 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 15	Any other advice?

09-20-2010, 02:39 AM	#14 (permalink)
JayYoon Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: san diego Posts: 452 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 15	i dun understand. I tried its like on off thingy... sometimes it slamms and sometimes it doesnt... anyone have the same problems? also when it slams... it feels though as the clutch is really tightly stuck in 1st gear and going to 2nd gear feels much stiffer...

09-20-2010, 06:24 AM	#15 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	i find the shifter in this car is hard to get into second gear anyway so that doesn't help. point being if it slams you are letting off the gas too early <--- If that and practice don't solve it have a friend that knows how to drive a manual go for a ride with you and ask them their thoughts. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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